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  • Damien
    Living in 2005
    • Jan 2003
    • 3713

    Originally posted by Big Al
    Can't agree about the forward option Damien. He was tried on numerous occasions this year up forward and was less than impressive. It's the reason they didn't bring him into the seniors to play that role.

    I feel for Seabs because without this ridiculous sub rule he's in our best 22 as the 2nd ruck.
    Provides a target, didn't play enough games for it to work or not in my opinion, but in anycase, seems like he wont be here to try again anyway!!

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    • Bas
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 4457

      Originally posted by liz
      The competiton history is littered with players who have played good footy in their first handful of games and been declared the next best thing by hopeful fans, only to fail to go on with it. Until Gunston has played a couple of solid seasons of senior footy, it isn't really possible to get a grasp of the level of player he might become.
      It seems this can be applied to the perception that some have on RWO in saying that Pyke is much better than Seaby.

      I still think it is a big gamble to trade Seaby because we have nothing in long term back up if Mummy gets injured.
      In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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      • alison.z
        Regular in the Side
        • Aug 2006
        • 988

        Could that mean we are possibly looking to give Currie another year? It would be hard to imagine having Mummy and Pyke as the only recognised ruckmen on our list with the chance of injuries and even changes to the sub rule in the future - he's obviously going to be a lot cheaper and more content to playing reserves than Seaby?

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        • Primmy
          Proud Tragic Swan
          • Apr 2008
          • 5970

          I hope for Seabs sake that he can find a home that can a) use him, and b) give him the love. You can normally tell at a B&F what is going on without words. Seabs was sitting down. Myke was standing up and chatting. Bevo had a big grin on his face (I know.....unheard of, but ..... I was there and I saw it....shocked the hell out of me).
          If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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          • chuckie
            Warming the Bench
            • Jan 2003
            • 301

            One of the reasons that Seaby didn't work as a forward, was our slowness in getting the ball down there, he was competing against two or three opponents everytime he went near the ball as was the case with any other tall option we played.
            Looking at Geelong during the final series they stopprd doing all those handballs that they use to out of their backline and moved the ball forward by foot which resulted in getting the ball in their forward line so much quicker to more one on one contests resulting in blokes like Hawkins, West, Ottens and Pods taking a lot more marks than usual.
            Maybe if we were more direct we could have played him more.

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            • Steve
              Regular in the Side
              • Jan 2003
              • 676

              You can understand Seaby wanting to move on, and if we got an OK trade, it's probably a good result. We have other deficencies to address, and having him in reserve would be somewhat of a luxury we most likely don't need.

              Things change quickly though, and if Mummy has any significant injuries, we'll struggle with Pyke as our No.1. Which is a concern given the workload Mummy has had (and will continue to have), the way he plays, and the knee problems over the past 2 years.

              It's hard to see much else happening for us trade-wise (other than Armstrong). We have ordinary picks I can't see any of our fringe players creating massive interest elsewhere. Best bet might be for a mid-range player at a club needing salary cap relief, doing a deal closer to the deadline. Maybe a Clinton Young, Farren Ray or Shannon Byrnes - I doubt we can do any better via a trade or the draft this year. More likely we'd wait for delistings and consider one of those in the draft (I'd prefer us trying a small forward from one of the state leagues personally).

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              • S120
                On the Rookie List
                • Apr 2011
                • 166

                A bloke on another site told me that he's mates with the other Currie to have played with us (Paul) and he said Dan has a place at the Swans if a decent trade can't be found for him (take that with as many grains of salt as necessary but he seemed legit). I can't imagine any club would give us anything of real value for him, so given that info, he'll stay with us.

                Fair enough too. We can't go into 2012 with just 2 senior ruckmen. Currie had a good year in the 2's and will surely get a shot in 2012 if he stays fit and White/Pyke can't wrap up the 2nd ruck/forward spot.

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                • Bas
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 4457

                  Currie would have no trade value. However with Seaby now destined to go and TWR are saying the deal should be done this afternoon then the combination of Seaby going and the GWS draft, it will probably give Currie another year on the list.

                  I don't have a problem with this and hopefully the kid can make firsts next season.

                  Interesting that there is no news on Bevan. I would have thought the he may have been of value to at least GWS.
                  In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                  • AnnieH
                    RWOs Black Sheep
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 11332

                    Have the Hawks stuffed us up yet????
                    It's coming ... I'm waiting.
                    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                    • swansrob
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2009
                      • 1265

                      Originally posted by AnnieH
                      Have the Hawks stuffed us up yet????
                      It's coming ... I'm waiting.
                      Maybe we should make an offer to Buddy for the combined salaries of Bolton, Bradshaw and Kennelly? Though he could well be making more than that already...

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                      • Damien
                        Living in 2005
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 3713

                        GWS now have picks 1,2,3,4,5,7,9,10,11,13,14 & 20. Yikes

                        Hate to see their salary cap pressures in a few years haha.

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                        • 707
                          Veterans List
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6204

                          Originally posted by ugg
                          Swans have shown interest in Irishman Tommy Walsh, while Port 'close' to securing Seaby

                          http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...012-1ll88.html
                          Tommy Walsh was a team mate of Tadgh's in Ireland. I'd be happy to help out St.Kilda's salary cap problem and give him a try.

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                          • Bas
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 4457

                            Originally posted by Damien
                            GWS now have picks 1,2,3,4,5,7,9,10,11,13,14 & 20. Yikes

                            Hate to see their salary cap pressures in a few years haha.
                            Well, if they have great players that cause salary cap problems then they will have outstanding trade value as well.

                            If anything, they do have the potential in 5 years time to be outplaying the Swans and the Swans becomes the poorer on-field of the two.

                            The Swans should be making a move to get a few of these picks now.

                            GWS as now traded their pick this year with Fremantle, which can use the original on-traded pick which Fremantle had, in the next 5 years.

                            Still laughing?
                            In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                            • Big Al
                              Veterans List
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 7007

                              Originally posted by Damien
                              Provides a target, didn't play enough games for it to work or not in my opinion, but in anycase, seems like he wont be here to try again anyway!!
                              He definitely played enough games to assess his worth as a ruck/forward. If he can't provide a decent target in the NEAFL how was he going to do it in the seniors.
                              ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                              Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                              • Big Al
                                Veterans List
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 7007

                                Originally posted by chuckie
                                One of the reasons that Seaby didn't work as a forward, was our slowness in getting the ball down there, he was competing against two or three opponents everytime he went near the ball as was the case with any other tall option we played.
                                Looking at Geelong during the final series they stopprd doing all those handballs that they use to out of their backline and moved the ball forward by foot which resulted in getting the ball in their forward line so much quicker to more one on one contests resulting in blokes like Hawkins, West, Ottens and Pods taking a lot more marks than usual.
                                Maybe if we were more direct we could have played him more.
                                We moved the ball pretty quickly in the NEAFL and he still wasn't great forward. There is a reason the coaching staff did not use him in the seniors as the 2nd ruck.
                                ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                                Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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