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  • Triple B
    Formerly 'BBB'
    • Feb 2003
    • 6999

    #16
    Originally posted by King Roosy
    The Zac Dawson hit on Tadhg a couple of seasons ago trigger any bells?
    Yep, it was the same as about a dozen other cheap shots Dawson has handed out over the past few seasons. Biggest sniper in the AFL, bar none.

    I don't agree with you about the world being against us though.
    Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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    • Adelaide Swan
      Up There For Sydney!
      • May 2010
      • 326

      #17


      GREATER Western Sydney veteran James McDonald today will come under scrutiny from the Match Review Panel he was a member of just six months ago.

      In an unprecedented scenario, McDonald - who quit the panel at the end of the season to join the Giants playing and coaching staff - will be the first player of the season to be scrutinised, after his hit on Sydney's Luke Parker at ANZ Stadium on Saturday night.

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      • iigrover
        Warming the Bench
        • Sep 2005
        • 245

        #18
        I would have thought the most he could get for it would be only one game as follows:

        Conduct - Negligent = 1 Activation Point
        Impact - High Impact = 3 Acitivation Points
        Contact - High = 2 Actiivation Points

        Which make its a Level 3 Offence and 325 demerit points. Then deduct 25% for good behaviour and a further 25% for early guildty plea gives you 182 demeit points and a one game suspension.

        If the MRP find that the contact was accidental/incidental then there is no penatly notwithstanding the high impact and high contact.

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        • cartman48
          Warming the Bench
          • Aug 2006
          • 129

          #19
          Nothing in the McDonald Hit and our great game is worse off for taking this physicality out of the game. Stop sooking!!!!
          Carn the Southern Power.....

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          • ernie koala
            Senior Player
            • May 2007
            • 3251

            #20
            Originally posted by iigrover
            I would have thought the most he could get for it would be only one game as follows:

            Conduct - Negligent = 1 Activation Point
            Impact - High Impact = 3 Acitivation Points
            Contact - High = 2 Actiivation Points

            Which make its a Level 3 Offence and 325 demerit points. Then deduct 25% for good behaviour and a further 25% for early guildty plea gives you 182 demeit points and a one game suspension.

            If the MRP find that the contact was accidental/incidental then there is no penatly notwithstanding the high impact and high contact.

            All sounds reasonable, except the possibility it could be deemed "accidental/ incidental".....no chance, unless he reinstates himself onto the panel.
            It seems pretty simple to me....He caught him high, so he'll do some time.
            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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            • Cpt. Kirk
              Warming the Bench
              • Feb 2011
              • 351

              #21
              Originally posted by cartman48
              Nothing in the McDonald Hit and our great game is worse off for taking this physicality out of the game. Stop sooking!!!!
              That physicality is why a lot of ex american football players and some afl players sue the league for not protecting them properly a head high bump to the face should not be accepted, that hit had more force then mumfords tackles.

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              • jono2707
                Goes up to 11
                • Oct 2007
                • 3326

                #22
                [QUOTE=King Roosy;563325]
                Originally posted by jono2707

                The Zac Dawson hit on Tadhg a couple of seasons ago trigger any bells?

                I thought that was an illegal hit and he got off for it.

                Not to mention the umpires totally disregarding anything they did on Saturday night.

                The free kick count was about 3:1 in the Giants favour.

                The Giants weren't that angelic.
                No I don't remember the Zac Dawson hit but if he did get off on one that he shouldn't have, its probably evened out by a certain Barry Hall hit on the eve of the 2005 Grand Final that a lot of non-Swans fans like to bring up from time to time. I think the moral of the story is that the MRP is sometimes inconsistent and various teams have been affected in various ways over the year.

                What was consistent on Saturday night was the blatant favouritism of the umpires to GWS - I don't think they were told to do it but with all the press predicting a thrashing, the probably were subconsciously trying to help in averting something that wouldn't have been a good look for the AFL.

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                • Doctor
                  Bay 29
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 2757

                  #23
                  It wasn't a low act but it was negligent IMO. He should be at least charged for it. The sanction will take care of itself under the system they have.
                  Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                  • Plugger46
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 3674

                    #24
                    Not much in it. He'll go because he probably caught a bit of Parker's head but it's a physical game. Certainly not a dog act.
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                    • swanspant12
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 593

                      #25
                      what an absolute farce if he doesnt get suspended for it. the media are absolute f wits to sydney..no way a GWS player would get suspended, its demetriou were talking about here. imagine if it was bazza haha would have been the biggest scandal ever! ridiculous
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                      • Big Al
                        Veterans List
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 7007

                        #26
                        Originally posted by swanspant12
                        what an absolute farce if he doesnt get suspended for it. the media are absolute f wits to sydney..no way a GWS player would get suspended, its demetriou were talking about here. imagine if it was bazza haha would have been the biggest scandal ever! ridiculous

                        Can we stop this Sydney is picked on and hard done by crap. I didn't see a lot of outrage when Goodes was going around belting people and getting off or complaints when Bazza punched Maguire in the guts and got off. Fact is all clubs have been on the receiving end if strange decisions by the MRP because consistency is something they have yet to achieve.

                        Also the AFL view Sydney as a vital market place for them and the Swans are an Intergral part of that strategy so why on earth would the AFL or Demetriou be out to get us.
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                        • Plugger46
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 3674

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Big Al
                          Can we stop this Sydney is picked on and hard done by crap. I didn't see a lot of outrage when Goodes was going around belting people and getting off or complaints when Bazza punched Maguire in the guts and got off. Fact is all clubs have been on the receiving end if strange decisions by the MRP because consistency is something they have yet to achieve.

                          Also the AFL view Sydney as a vital market place for them and the Swans are an Intergral part of that strategy so why on earth would the AFL or Demetriou be out to get us.
                          Spot on Al.
                          Bloods

                          "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                          • swansrule100
                            The quarterback
                            • May 2004
                            • 4538

                            #28
                            except that he hit parker who is a swan and in my dream team it was a bloody good bump, not bad for an old fart.

                            Guess he has to get weeks though, but i like a bit of aggression out there.
                            Theres not much left to say

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                            • Primmy
                              Proud Tragic Swan
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 5970

                              #29
                              Guess Junior's timing was off, he is not a dirty player, and he has b een out of the game for a while so wouldn't be surprised if he just got it "wrong". Two weeks for negligent is my estimate - it was a shame the umps were also in practice mode on the night - trust that Luke is ok. Tough little nut.
                              If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                              • liz
                                Veteran
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16786

                                #30
                                Originally posted by iigrover
                                I would have thought the most he could get for it would be only one game as follows:

                                Conduct - Negligent = 1 Activation Point
                                Impact - High Impact = 3 Acitivation Points
                                Contact - High = 2 Actiivation Points

                                Which make its a Level 3 Offence and 325 demerit points. Then deduct 25% for good behaviour and a further 25% for early guildty plea gives you 182 demeit points and a one game suspension.

                                If the MRP find that the contact was accidental/incidental then there is no penatly notwithstanding the high impact and high contact.
                                If it was a tackle gone wrong, or he was trying to contest the ball but got there a fraction too late, it mean be deemed accidental. However, given it was an outright hip and shoulder with no attempt to contest the ball, I think it will get graded as reckless, particularly as McDonald's feet left the ground. On the other hand, I think the impact will probably be assessed as medium rather than high. McDonald will be helped by the fact that Parker got up shortly afterwards and played out most of the game.

                                Of course, if there was no high impact, there is no case to answer at all.

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