Fremantle interested in Jesse

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  • ShockOfHair
    One Man Out
    • Dec 2007
    • 3668

    #31
    Jesse impressive even to the horizontal viewer:

    Lyon interview:

    "I laid on the couch and watched [the Swans] on the weekend and he played as well as I've seen Jesse play."
    The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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    • Chilcott
      Regular in the Side
      • Jan 2008
      • 595

      #32
      I had serious doubts about Jessie making it as a player, as I did with Grundy and McVeigh - says alot for my judgement.

      I now hope that we can sign up Jessie for another 2 - 3 years.

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      • BillyRayCypress
        On the Rookie List
        • May 2012
        • 1379

        #33
        This thread is funny to read. It could also be funny to Reid too.
        Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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        • PerthSwannie
          Regular in the Side
          • Jun 2006
          • 523

          #34
          If it came to it. I`d love Michael Walters as a trade for JW. Walters is from Swan Districts. The same club as The Jettstar. They`d be a dynamic duo.......................
          Even Santa follows the Swannies.

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          • DA_Swan
            Warming the Bench
            • Feb 2010
            • 322

            #35
            Too think we would not have had this "problem" of what to do with Jesse if Adelaide had deemed him good enough to be included in the the trade for Tippett - now Jesse knowing that he has a great opportunity because of injuries to "prove" himself has a chance to get his next contract after being shown clearly by the club that he was surplus.
            If Jesse is a potentially a wanted man - good luck to him - i hope the club sticks to its guns and trades him because a list management plan should not change on the basis of seven or eight good games because a player is chasing a contract - "self interest" has seen this improvement - based on our recent track record for moving players I'll back the club to get it right.

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            • Melbournehammer
              Senior Player
              • May 2007
              • 1815

              #36
              Robbo on afl 360 reckons there are several clubs interested in Jesse and some of them are the really big name ones

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              • Mountain Man
                Regular in the Side
                • Feb 2008
                • 908

                #37
                i hope the club sticks to its guns and trades him because a list management plan should not change on the basis of seven or eight good games because a player is chasing a contract - "self interest" has seen this improvement - based on our recent track record for moving players I'll back the club to get it right.

                We have traded/released a few (since say 2005), and none have really shone elsewhere.

                BBBH, Scheidner, Buchanan, Vespremy, Johnston, Barlow, ??

                I doubt even Jolly or Dempster would be guaranteed games at present.

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                • Melbournehammer
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2007
                  • 1815

                  #38
                  Can you in all seriousness say that dempster hasn't shone elsewhere ? The guy was on the cusp of all Australian

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                  • DK_
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 454

                    #39
                    Originally posted by DA_Swan
                    Too think we would not have had this "problem" of what to do with Jesse if Adelaide had deemed him good enough to be included in the the trade for Tippett - now Jesse knowing that he has a great opportunity because of injuries to "prove" himself has a chance to get his next contract after being shown clearly by the club that he was surplus.
                    If Jesse is a potentially a wanted man - good luck to him - i hope the club sticks to its guns and trades him because a list management plan should not change on the basis of seven or eight good games because a player is chasing a contract - "self interest" has seen this improvement - based on our recent track record for moving players I'll back the club to get it right.
                    Maybe. Or maybe the public rejection by Adelaide was just the kick up the bum he needed to take an honest look at where he was at and how he was performing, and his current performance is a reflection of what he concluded. He wouldn't be the first person to benefit from a big wake up call! Who knows? I'm not pretending that I do.

                    A list management plan can and must change depending on where a player falls relative to expectations. Some fall short, some exceed them. Some never get their chance to prove it. I think Jesse's future will likely be clear by GF day. He looks to be loving it at the moment and I suspect that having had a taste of performing well, he'll want more. Just a case of whether he maintains performance over the next couple of months. If he continues this partnership of domination with Tippett, I can't see Horse letting him go easily. He is rather fond of multiple avenues to goal.

                    I wonder how he would have gone if Adelaide had taken him. By his own admission he was cruising up until then. Maybe he would have continued down that path until his next contract expired? We'll never know of course, but it's a classic sliding door. Reid's second injury is another one. Without that, he'd never have got a run in the CHF/wing role which clearly suits his talents far more than ruckman.

                    As an aside, other KPFs chasing a contract seem to have a habit of falling in a heap (Dawe, Cloke, Buddy).

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                    • Primmy
                      Proud Tragic Swan
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 5970

                      #40
                      This is getting Silly. Swans dont keep players they dont see potential in. Some blokes take time or are let go by other clubs who don't value them enough.

                      Like Ted, Joey ,Jolly too, Mummy, and etc.

                      I see it as all planets aligning, our patience paying off, and Jesse finally getting out of his frustrating straight jacket.. We may have to trade him and his stocks are high, but we have a player to be proud of, not one we 'let go'.

                      Personally I have invested a lot of energy into him and I want him to stay.
                      If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                      • Auntie.Gerald
                        Veterans List
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6477

                        #41
                        if goodes accepts a smaller contract for 2014 given he has limped thru 2012 and 2013 and he is 57yrs of age then White will stay no doubt
                        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                        • barry
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8499

                          #42
                          Lets wait until jesse puts in a full afl standard season , or at least half a season

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                          • Captain
                            Captain of the Side
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 3602

                            #43
                            I still say that Jesse has always been a good forward/utility. The trouble has been when he has gone in the ruck where he is absolutely terrible.

                            We must keep him next year and play him in the correct position. Actually anywhere but in the ruck.

                            Reid to CHB. Jesse/Tippett as the tall forwards. Goodes/LRT the utilities. Obviously there will be injuries so doubt will all play together anyway.

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                            • TheAgent
                              Avid Training Watcher
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 76

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Captain
                              I still say that Jesse has always been a good forward/utility. The trouble has been when he has gone in the ruck where he is absolutely terrible.

                              We must keep him next year and play him in the correct position. Actually anywhere but in the ruck.

                              Reid to CHB. Jesse/Tippett as the tall forwards. Goodes/LRT the utilities. Obviously there will be injuries so doubt will all play together anyway.
                              I would tend to agree but I believe Jesse in the ruck does well around the ground, just not at the centre bounces.

                              For those worried about salary cap with Jesse and Mummy yet to sign: Marty has retired so there is around $300,000 spare and if Jude retires then I would put my money on O'Keefe moving onto the veterans list which should free up another $400-$500,000.

                              We need Jesse because LRT won't be around forever and a 25 year old tall in good form is hard to find. Remember Tom Hawkins....

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                              • Ludwig
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                #45
                                Jesse, in fact, started playing better footy last year in the reserves when he became the no. 1 ruckman. Probably the time on ball forced a change in his work ethic. He had no choice but to move from contest to contest. He seems to have carried it over into the preseason. And now he's putting it together in the seniors.

                                The history behind Jesse's rise to senior level is not all that relevant. It's about how he's performing now and the probability of his continuing that level of performance in the future. If by the end of the season he consistently plays like a quality CHF, the decision is simple. We have to keep him. Jesse pretty much played as well as Jack Riewoldt on Sunday. So that's about what he's worth. It took Jack a few year to get going, and he had some lean times before it all came together for him in his forth year; and he still goes through plenty of flat periods.

                                I was 100% sure Jesse would be out of the club at year end. But opportunity knocked and Jesse answered.

                                Let's rate Jesse on the merits. This book's not finished yet.

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