Fremantle interested in Jesse

[aardvark]

Straight swap for Fyfe...

[Swansongster]

It's probably a moot point, but the game totals were actually 18 and 20 for those years.

2009 he had the solid run to close the season as our main forward with Barry gone and did well. Coming into 2010 we grabbed Bradshaw and gave him that role and Jesse moved down the pecking order. When Braddy went down Jesse wasn't completely woeful, he kicked 17 goals from 12 games (from memory at least a couple of those games he played backup ruck as well) to close the season- which is circa 1.4 goals, which is pretty much right on Sam Reid's career best average from 2012. He memorably made way for Bradshaw to come back in to the side for the SF after a hell of a lot of weeks on the sidelines. 2011, 2012, start of 2013 he was mainly looked at to get a run as a backup ruckman, but we can probably say his best footy is played not having to shoulder that load.

Interesting you mention that. Sound familiar?

I'll never forget that night he came in underdone against the Dogs. We had the game won but couldn't hold them off. Braddie missed a few sitters from memory and largely couldn't contribute.

Is there a lesson there about rushing back experience that has been on the sidelines for a long time?

[stellation]

Straight swap for Fyfe...

In a heartbeat.

[aardvark]

In a heartbeat.

Ha, I knew we'd find common ground eventually.

[Plugger46]

Interesting you mention that. Sound familiar?

I'll never forget that night he came in underdone against the Dogs. We had the game won but couldn't hold them off. Braddie missed a few sitters from memory and largely couldn't contribute.

Is there a lesson there about rushing back experience that has been on the sidelines for a long time?

Hardly. Bradshaw took about 10 grabs and had about 8 shots at goal. We wouldn't have been in the game if he wasn't playing. He missed an absolute sitter in the third quarter but he certainly contributed.

Having said that, I agree that playing underdone players will bring you undone. I'm confident the club is across that though.

[magic.merkin]

Yeah but that game a flash in the pan doggies small kicked at least 1 crucial goal. Hooper I recall... Also harbrow running amok down back, ran past Moore a few times .

Also Bradshaw had 13 disposals, 9 marks and kicked 3goals 4... so i'd say he contributed. Just missed a few sitters

[Doctor J.]

I find it interesting how Jesse White is considered a bit parts player, by many Swans supporters and indeed the footy public in general. I was watching the Ess Rich game on Sat night (the worst game of footy I've seen all year), and a commentator, probably Brian Taylor made the comment about Michael Hurley being a genuine "A" grader of todays game. Got me thinking, geez Jesse's output in 2013 must be very close to Hurleys.

Sure enough:

AFL Player Comparison - FinalSiren.com

Kind of makes me think, we splash around the term A grader, or Jesse is seriously undervalued.

I'm a Jesse fan who has fallen off the bandwagon with an almightly thump, so much so that the pain has made me sceptical as to whether his 2nd half of 2013 is the real Jesse, or the version that frustrated the hell out of me will emerge. If it is the former, then Jesse is a keeper, but at what price? I would love for him and Tippett to be our version (only better) of the Buddy & Roughie show.

[CureTheSane]

He played 20 games in 2009 and 22 games in 2010.

Well, 'played' is the operative word there.
I consider him to have been in development.
This year, he has played.

[dimelb]

... I'm a Jesse fan who has fallen off the bandwagon with an almightly thump, so much so that the pain has made me sceptical as to whether his 2nd half of 2013 is the real Jesse, or the version that frustrated the hell out of me will emerge...

I'm in the same position.
I found very encouraging a response he gave in a recent interview. I can't quote him verbatim, but the gist of it was that he was told he wasn't working hard enough, and realised that all his playing career he had been relying on being bigger and faster than most of the kids he played with, but that he could no longer get away with that approach at seniors' level.
So he started working harder and we are enjoying the result. He may, of course, make a mistake now and then - who doesn't? - but I think we are seeing a permanent shift.
And I'm delighted to witness it.

[DK_]

I'm in the same position.
I found very encouraging a response he gave in a recent interview. I can't quote him verbatim, but the gist of it was that he was told he wasn't working hard enough, and realised that all his playing career he had been relying on being bigger and faster than most of the kids he played with, but that he could no longer get away with that approach at seniors' level.
So he started working harder and we are enjoying the result. He may, of course, make a mistake now and then - who doesn't? - but I think we are seeing a permanent shift.
And I'm delighted to witness it.

I agree with all of this. If the Swans pull off another heist to surpass even 2005, then Jesse's will be one of the great stories of the year. Written off, career dead in the water, but instead of giving up, he was honest enough with himself to see where he fell short and fix it. He didn't even really expect to get another chance, but instead he's become critical to our chances of hoisting the cup again. His hard work has paid off, even if we don't quite go all the way.

[Primmy]

Of all the players on the swans list Jesse is the one many of us have invested our energies into. Our "great White hope" as it were. I think we could all see his potential, and that is what has made Jesse so frustrating. He just did not live up to it on a consistent basis.

The thing now is that we don't want to come down with a thud again, and I don't think we will. One thing I think we can pretty much agree on is that this year there is a degree of consistency and urgency in Jesse's game which has been missing in the past. We may be vindicated yet for our belief in the boy.

[Velour&Ruffles]

Jesse was out of place on Fri night I though.
He couldn't take a contested mark and the ball rebounded from the forward line over and over.

Couldn't agree less. I thought Jesse was very good on Friday. If I was a Hawk supporter I would have viewed him as a constant threat.

[aardvark]

Couldn't agree less. I thought Jesse was very good on Friday. If I was a Hawk supporter I would have viewed him as a constant threat.

His first quarter was great.

[The Big Cat]

Roos said tonight on OTC that he thought it was Jesse's best game for the club.

[liz]

Despite his run of good form, I'm still not sure where Jesse sits in the pecking order. We're already arguably on the tall side with Mumford, White, Pyke and Tippett. They couldn't all possibly be in the team if Goodes and Reid were also available. People on here may not agree but I doubt Jesse has pushed himself ahead of Reid (a fit Reid, I'm not talking about this season) in the eyes of the coaches. It still might be best for him to move to a club where he's highly likely to get regular games without waiting for injury to hit. If nothing else, he's ensured he'll have a few suitors come seasons end.

If Mumford leaves the equation definitely changes as far as his immediate future at the Swans is concerned.