Fremantle interested in Jesse

[ShockOfHair]

It's interesting that they chose to change the title so dramatically.

Understandable. Not a good time to be offending Mummy and his manager (ie, during the critical period of contract negotiations).

[dimelb]

It's interesting that they chose to change the title so dramatically.

Well, it's not an article that's been edited. They are two different takes on the same media interview, the AFL one by James Dampney, the Swans one by Tanya Paolucci. I'd be reluctant to read anything into it about Mummy's future, and I expect that he will want to stay. Mind you, I think he may want to be paid a bit more, and I also think he deserves it. I'll trust the club to get it sorted after the GF!

[Ludwig]

I wonder how much of challenge it is to sign all of Mummy, White and Lamb, given that at the start of the season we probably thought White would be gone and Lamb had not played a senior game. But all 3 have come on strong at the end of the season. We've given out a few multi-year contracts during the year, so there may not be much left in the till. I also wonder if there have been some behind the scenes trade talks concerning these 3, just to assess the options.

[Auntie.Gerald]

im not too worried as we have a massively deep list right now

Going = Morton, Bolton, Lockyear?, Biggs? and Dre? to move on to greater opportunities ?

Need = to maintain our as it has so much upside !!!........maybe another tall or two unless Jessie stays and if jesse does stay i am comfortable for Reid to play in the backs for one season "IF" jesse maintains the rage !

I am still hopeful though for Xavier, Brown and

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im not too worried as we have a massively deep list right now

Going = Morton, Bolton, Lockyear?, Biggs? and Dre? to move on to greater opportunities ?

Need = to maintain our as it has so much upside !!!........maybe another tall or two unless Jessie stays and if jesse does stay i am comfortable for Reid to play in the backs for one season "IF" jesse maintains the rage !

I am still hopeful though for Xavier, Brown and

[rojo]

I think too many are forgetting that next year both Goodesy and LRT may be very much in the mix. It is a complete unknown, but if they are, how is Jesse going to get a game, no matter how deserving? If LRT was put in the backline to help out with the monster forwards, we would have KT, Mummy and Pyke as is now, plus Goodes, Reid and Jesse. Even if Mummy moved on, Jesse would still not be guaranteed a game. If he is made a good offer from another club he would have to give it serious consideration.

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[Ludwig]

Stories about Jesse or Mummy moving on make you think about the composition of the team next year, how hard should we try to keep them and who are the more important players in the overall makeup of the team.

If you take the current team, then add the injured regulars (I count 6) and then add to that some of the more promising youngsters running around in the 2nds, you have over 30 players that seem to be deserving of a spot in the side.

If none of the current team are moved on, then there's going to be a lot of players fighting for a few spots. I think LRT, Dre and Grundy may all be vying for only one spot at best. And it's hard to see who gets dropped if Rhyce plays. As of now, its only Jude that's retiring, so at least 5 players from the this week's projected 22 plus injured players to return may miss out. But who? You can't have Mummy, Pyke or White playing reserves football waiting for someone to get an injury to get a game. If we don't think they are walk up starters then they should be traded. Personally, I think all 3 are more than deserving based on current form, but may be traded nonetheless for other reasons, e.g., salary cup constraints.

[aardvark]

Just a reminder Marty Mattner retired too.....

[Pmcc2911]

If you turned the clock back 365 days we could have been having a similar discussion, albeit with some different names. With the injuries we have had this year we have need the depth of players.
We need the fringe players like Dre, Lamb and arguably White to fill the gaps, (we can't rely on unearthing young guns every year)

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If you turned the clock back 365 days we could have been having a similar discussion, albeit with some different names. With the injuries we have had this year we have need the depth of players.
We need the fringe players like Dre, Lamb and arguably White to fill the gaps, (we can't rely on unearthing young guns every year)

[Velour&Ruffles]

I think all this baloney about too many talls is just that - and mostly invented by Victorian media types who are worried about their favourite team's ability to hold them out. All four are mobile, athletic and fit. They're looking more fearsome each week and will be the backbone of our finals.

Great comment.
The issue is not how tall people are but how mobile. Jesse is extraordinarily quick and mobile for someone with his power (witness some of his chases in recent weeks) and there are many smaller players in the league who are slower and less athletic than the other three. I recall the media saying little more than a year ago that two-ruckman teams were dead and buried. The 2012 premiership changed that thinking. And seeing some of Tippo's running snaps he could just as easily be 183 cm rather than 203 cm. I see absolutely no reason why all four can't be in the same team.
It is also great to have a point of difference from other teams. Having four genuinely big guys could be a huge opportunity rather than a problem. What we need to do is work out a gameplan which makes full use of it (as opposed to the "just bomb it to Tippo" nonsense of a few weeks ago).

[DK_]

Great comment.
The issue is not how tall people are but how mobile. Jesse is extraordinarily quick and mobile for someone with his power (witness some of his chases in recent weeks) and there are many smaller players in the league who are slower and less athletic than the other three. I recall the media saying little more than a year ago that two-ruckman teams were dead and buried. The 2012 premiership changed that thinking. And seeing some of Tippo's running snaps he could just as easily be 183 cm rather than 203 cm. I see absolutely no reason why all four can't be in the same team.
It is also great to have a point of difference from other teams. Having four genuinely big guys could be a huge opportunity rather than a problem. What we need to do is work out a gameplan which makes full use of it (as opposed to the "just bomb it to Tippo" nonsense of a few weeks ago).

I agree. You don't really see just how fast Jesse is on TV, but at the game you see the ground he covers and the speed he does it at - usually to cut off opposition rebounds or switches. And who will forget when he burned off Adelaide's Brodie Smith to kick one of the goals of the year? Jetta would have been happy if he'd pulled that off.

Pyke played full-back in international rugby, a sweeping position in defence and extra man in attack. While they are usually out-paced by the wingers, a full-back doesn't get far without some serious speed. I suspect he's sacrificed some of that speed for size to compete in the ruck, but he's still no slouch.

Mumford is not so much fast as mobile. He works extremely hard both ways. More so than some of his shorter midfield opponents IMO.

I'm excited about seeing how Longmire employs his attack this week. All bets will be off and we'll finally see what he's been working up to!

[Ruck'n'Roll]

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Just a reminder Marty Mattner retired too.....

As has Mitch, so that's three gone already.

FWIW Jessica is very quick for a big man, however I think the suggestion that he might evolve into a midfielder is predicated on a "tank" that he doesn't in fact posess, and given his size, probably can't acquire.

[magic.merkin]

I'm excited about seeing how Longmire employs his attack this week. All bets will be off and we'll finally see what he's been working up to!

Yeah I hoope he has been foxing just to get by for the last month or so. Lowered eyes and a different strategy for finals!