Trade Whispers / Rumours and Confirmations

[mcs]

We are not going to get Pick 1 from GWS for Mumford and Grundy - it won't happen people.

I don't understand the hate for Grundy on here. Sure he an be frustrating to say the least, but he has also been part of one of the best defences over the last few years. Unlike LRT, he also can stay fit.

Freo aren't going to let Griffin go anywhere - Sandipants is what 31 I think, hasn't got much time left.

[sharp9]

Er...Grundy not enough run?? I know he's no legend but 32 possessions a couple of weeks ago. Cut the guy some slack

[snajik]

Realistically how reliable is that?

Isn't he a herald sun journalist? Aren't they without exception, idiots?

[Matt80]

Talking about Trade Season, why have every club walked away from pursuing Dustin Martin? He is a strong, quick, highly skilled inside midfielder who is only 22. His only option appears to be to sign with Richmond for a reduced amount!

Should the Swans have a look at him as a long term midfield replacement for ROK?

[Ludwig]

Boyd is more your FF type and we already have Tippett for that, so I would be targeting GWS's pick 9 instead.

Grundy is 27 and McGlynn 28, so both are at the peak of their careers. After this year they will lose a considerable amount of trade value. I would let Grundy go if it meant we could get a young key defender in return, either through a good draft or a player (probably from GWS).

One thing being overlooked in many calculations is just how much improvement Everitt has made this year. He really finished off the end of season well. But with so many talls returning, it's going to be hard to fit to him. With Tippett in the lineup, the return of Rowan and the promising form of Membrey, it seems that LRT is better suited for a return to the backline, which I think is really his best stop. That will limit Everitt's opportunities mostly to the to forward line. I think Dre forward and LRT back best suits their relative strengths.

If the list is healthy we have plenty of KPP options for next year. But with many of them in the final years of their careers, we will need to get some young KPPs into the club.

[ernie koala]

Talking about Trade Season, why have every club walked away from pursuing Dustin Martin? He is a strong, quick, highly skilled inside midfielder who is only 22. His only option appears to be to sign with Richmond for a reduced amount!

Should the Swans have a look at him as a long term midfield replacement for ROK?

Not at his asking price of $600k per year...Not even close.

[Triple B]

Talking about Trade Season, why have every club walked away from pursuing Dustin Martin? He is a strong, quick, highly skilled inside midfielder who is only 22. His only option appears to be to sign with Richmond for a reduced amount!

Should the Swans have a look at him as a long term midfield replacement for ROK?

There's a reason all these clubs have turned their back on him.

Leppitsch has worked with him his whole career, goes to Brisbane. Nek minnit, Brisbane withdraws any interest in Martin. That say's it all really...

[Matt80]

Great post Triple B!

It's a shame for Dustin as inside midfielders of his class are now the most valuable players in modern football!

He polled well at the Brownlow!

[CureTheSane]

I don't see the greatness of Everitt or Reid that many others do here.
For me, I'd take White before either of them.
I would not be unhappy to see Grundy move on - I feel he isn't up to speed these days.
McGlynn seems to have lost a bit of the 'it' factor as well.
LRT is an anomaly to some degree as at his age a year off can make an irretrievable dent in fitness and keeping up with the rest o the team.

I'd take heath Shaw to play a year with his brother before he takes his brothers place.
I'd be interested in Chapman if the Cats dump him.
Would be a good fringe player for us for a year or two. Still has what it takes.

[mcs]

You talk about getting rid of Grundy because he 'isn't up to speed these days' and have concerns about LRT's fitness, but want to get Chapman even though he is old and has missed basically most of this season through injury?

As for white over Reid - surely White is a perfect example of why we need to be patient with Reid. Jesse debuted in 2008, yet is only just hitting his straps this season, as a 25 year old. Reid is still only 21 years old, and has basically lost most of this season to injury. Give him some time, and he will pay handsome dividends for the faith that he deserves. Surely, given the love in from so many on here for Jesse, Sammy deserves exactly the same time to develop and improve as Jesse has had?

[CureTheSane]

I never said I think we should get rid of Reid or Everitt.
Simply that I think White has shown more and in the immediate future now has value - to us, and to any other club.
A real Cinderella story or sorts I guess.

Grundy is slow and I see him as being lazy and his form is sporadic.
LRT won't be traded or delisted, now should he be, but he may not be the player he was.
Picking up Chapman is a separate issue. Depends on price and potential value for money.
He could be a Daffy or he could be a useful player for a year or two.

[Bloodthirsty]

I don't think Walsh has worked out. He doesn't have any currency either, except maybe for some euros in his pocket.

Shame to get rid of White. I think we need him. But, he obviously can't trust that the Swans put him on the park. I don't blame him for wanting to leave. If KPPs take until they are 25 to click into gear, why the hell are we letting him leave? Do we have any other KPPs in their prime aside from Tippett? No, we don't.

[bodgie]

"Grundy is slow and I see him as being lazy and his form is sporadic."

He was not as consistent this year but I really admire those guys because they have to make critical instant decisions under extreme pressure. His job was much more difficult this year because of the constantly changing personnel down back. I think sometimes he has been trying to think things through calmly but being caught out without the usual structures that our defence had been so good at. I'd be keeping him until we know where LRT is at, if Goodesy can still do a turn down back, if Everitt can keep improving and if Reid can be an effective backman.

[Triple B]

I get as frustrated as the next bloke with Grundy at times, but seriously, trade him out?? What's more, people are suggesting he's the steak knives and worth bugger all??

Crazy talk...

[BillyRayCypress]

There's a reason all these clubs have turned their back on him.

Leppitsch has worked with him his whole career, goes to Brisbane. Nek minnit, Brisbane withdraws any interest in Martin. That say's it all really...

Triple B, you're saying he's been given such a bad dose of "Leppasy" that even Leppa doesn't want him?