Trade Whispers / Rumours and Confirmations

[Auntie.Gerald]

FS

i like Membrey too but imagine him being marked up on by most 3rd talls...........AJ would be all over him for example !

Membrey is strong but not any match just yet for an experienced Snr level defender

Membrey is the sam height as Gary Rohan but with no speed

I am pumped though for Membrey .........I hope he becomes a little taller because then he could truly wrestle the tall defenders

[liz]

I think we are are going to miss Big Mummy more than we think.
I"ve just watched the 3 finals we played, and he was one of the consistents in those games. his 2nd and 3rd and 4th efforts at ruck contests is amazing.
Whilst Pyke has improved in many areas, this isn't one of them.
If a swan doesn't get the ball from the tap, Mummy is quite regularly the one laying the tackle.

Agree with this. In an ideal world, if we decided we only had room in the best 22 for one ruckman, it would have been Pyke we looked to offload. However, he's probably can't command the same salary as Mummy (and hence would have freed up less cap space), plus his 'story' means there are sentimental reasons for not offloading him. Pyke will need to stop developing his forward prowess over the off-season (as that will be less critical) and focus on his ruckman skills.

[Auntie.Gerald]

i love the big mummy but i truly believe in our list management !

[liz]

FS

i like Membrey too but imagine him being marked up on by most 3rd talls...........AJ would be all over him for example !

Membrey is strong but not any match just yet for an experienced Snr level defender

Membrey is the sam height as Gary Rohan but with no speed

I am pumped though for Membrey .........I hope he becomes a little taller because then he could truly wrestle the tall defenders

Height isn't everything. It would be nice if he were a little pacier too (though not necessarily at the Rohan level) but there are still roles for him to fill. There are plenty others of similar height / pace who've become decent AFL forwards. Working on his endurance is probably the key, so that he can fill a ROK style role (the old ROK role, not the current one).

[Ludwig]

Agree with this. In an ideal world, if we decided we only had room in the best 22 for one ruckman, it would have been Pyke we looked to offload. However, he's probably can't command the same salary as Mummy (and hence would have freed up less cap space), plus his 'story' means there are sentimental reasons for not offloading him. Pyke will need to stop developing his forward prowess over the off-season (as that will be less critical) and focus on his ruckman skills.

Toward the end of the season I watched the ruck contests very carefully and came away with the same conclusions as Scott about Mummy's second efforts, tackling, etc., but felt that it didn't really give us much of an advantage. With all of his efforts it didn't seem to make that much difference to the outcome of the contest and felt we would have come off just as well with only our midfielders contesting the ball in the same situations. Sometimes I felt Mummy actually got in the way of a more dexterous Swan coming away with the ball. It's a very hard call to make because it's projection something that hasn't happened, so it's just a general impression of the state of play.

Early in the season most of us were saying that they thought Pyke was the number 1 ruckman, but Mummy had a good second half and opinions have shifted. I still feel that we are better off with Pyke than Mummy if we are going to play only 1 genuine ruckman. I actually think Pyke is a better tap to advantage than Mummy, and he is certainly a better contested mark and goal kicker.

I originally thought we could play 2 ruckman, but gradually changed my mind as the season closed out. After adding Franklin, there was little doubt that we could play 2 genuine ruckmen. I definitely think that one of the 2 had to go, and Mummy was the obvious choice because of reasons many have presented here. You can't have Mummy or Pyke in the ressies waiting for an injury to happen.

Colless and Ireland have gone out on a limb with signing the 2 big forwards. I'm nervous about the outcome like everyone else, but feel that if we get a decent run with injuries we should do fine and they will be praised by all for their genius.

[Reggi]

FS


Membrey is the sam height as Gary Rohan but with no speed

I think you will find Membrey was amongst the fastest in the 20 metre sprint at his draft camp

[BillyRayCypress]

Indicative selection order for the 2013 draft - AFL.com.au

Funny article to fill in trade period called Trades we'd like to see.......:

https://www.sportsfan.com.au/trades-wed-like-to-see/tabid/91/newsid/113528/default.aspx

[DK_]

On a few of the points made on here:

1. I think a trade is in both Everitt's and the Swans interests. As good as he played this year, he is a long way from guaranteed a game when LRT and AJ return. At GWS he will be one if the first picked every week and he's young enough to be still playing when their youngsters hit their prime. For the Swans, if he does end up languishing in the NEAFL, his trade value will be nil by the time his contract ends. The sane goes for White. I was a huge fan of the big man and I'm afraid of what he'll do for the Pies, but the move makes sense for everyone involved.
2. It is a shame to lose the big Mummy, but I'll back Pyke to improve the parts of his game that he needs to. He clearly concentrated on his contested marks this year and look where that took him! Having said that, I feel a little uneasy about our ruck stocks. If Pyke gets injured, we'll struggle.
3. Agree that Walsh will probably move back. If I remember rightly, he was playing defender in the reserves a lot before he got promoted then injured.

[dimelb]

Indicative selection order for the 2013 draft - AFL.com.au

Funny article to fill in trade period called Trades we'd like to see.......:

https://www.sportsfan.com.au/trades-...8/default.aspx

Very funny. And makes more sense than some suggestions I've seen!

[ugg]

Bombers and Saints keen to entice Longer

The Magpies are also believed to be close to trading pick 27 to West Coast in order to swap their pick 10 for the Eagles' pick 6 and pick 40.

The Magpies would then likely trade on 40 to the Swans for Jesse White and Tony Armstrong

Seems a tad low to me but I guess there is little wiggle room if the Pies manage to pull that 10 + 27 for 6 + 40 which means they would have 6, Daisy compo pick (expected to be 11) and 40.

[Triple B]

Seems a tad low to me but I guess there is little wiggle room if the Pies manage to pull that 10 + 27 for 6 + 40 which means they would have 6, Daisy compo pick (expected to be 11) and 40.

I'd still prefer to let them keep pick 40 and just swap first round picks with us (11 for 15) for Jesse and Armstrong. If they manage to upgrade to Pick 6, you'd think there is some chance they may be prepared to move 4 rungs down the ladder leaving them with 6, 15 and 40 as well as Jesse and Armstrong. I just don't see us using Pick 40, particularly if we get a pick around the same mark off GWS for Mummy and possibly Dre.

Another possibility is swapping our 2nd rounder 30 something pick with GWS's pick 19 for Mummy and Dre giving us twp picks in the top 20.

[stellation]

40 does seem a little low, I'm all for the idea of trying to help a guy get to the club of his choice (and I'm happy for all involved etc. etc.) but it does seem like we're taking a bargaining position of "sure, whatever you've got".

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I'd still prefer to let them keep pick 40 and just swap first round picks with us (11 for 15) for Jesse and Armstrong. If they manage to upgrade to Pick 6, you'd think there is some chance they may be prepared to move 4 rungs down the ladder leaving them with 6, 15 and 40 as well as Jesse and Armstrong. I just don't see us using Pick 40, particularly if we get a pick around the same mark off GWS for Mummy and possibly Dre.

Another possibility is swapping our 2nd rounder 30 something pick with GWS's pick 19 for Mummy and Dre giving us twp picks in the top 20.

I'd greatly prefer that.

I know we've done well over the years with draft picks in later rounds, but it's important for us to get a couple of picks in the top 20 this year if we can. With so much salary committed already to the top end of the squad we need to be able to draft guys that we are confident can become depth players/compete for spots over the next 5 years whilst on relatively modest salaries.

[ugg]

Those who watch junior footy would know more but I'm led to believe that after about pick 10 the next bunch are a much of a muchness and we mightn't gain anything whatsoever by moving up 4 places in the first round

[Triple B]

Those who watch junior footy would know more but I'm led to believe that after about pick 10 the next bunch are a much of a muchness and we mightn't gain anything whatsoever by moving up 4 places in the first round

That would be quite possible, but we could get lucky and a top 10 prospect could easily slide to #11. I just feel that any pick getting towards #40 could well be where we start to draft Rampe, BJ and Biggs which we can pick up at picks 98, 99 and 100 if we wanted...

[ugg]

Trade out Armstrong White Everitt Mumford along with the retirements of Bolton Mattner Morton plus the delisting of Brown and I think there's a good chance we will use pick 40