Trade Whispers / Rumours and Confirmations

[BillyRayCypress]

I don't think you can give a great deal of credibility to AFL trade rumours.

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(Rumour) According to AFL Trade Rumours, Draft & Offseason News on FB, Mumford is close to signing a deal with GWS.

And in the hope of improving Swans GWS relationships they will give us Pick 1 ????

I don't think you can give much credibility to AFL trade rumours.

Is anyone else getting confused between Matt79 and Matt80 ???? Have they been seen in the same room together?

[vlg303]

Welcome! Thanks for the info. I would think you'd want at least two junior ruckmen in development - otherwise you're too susceptible to a serious injury.

Exactly. I think a good ruckman is hard to replace like-for-like. Trading for ruckmen is potentially very expensive when compared to developing younger rucks.

May as well develop two NSW boys with great potential.

[DK_]

(Rumour) According to AFL Trade Rumours, Draft & Offseason News on FB, Mumford is close to signing a deal with GWS.

Wouldn't the Swans need to agree to a trade first? And can that happen before trade week?

[Matt79]

I don't think you can give a great deal of credibility to AFL trade rumours.

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And in the hope of improving Swans GWS relationships they will give us Pick 1 ????

I don't think you can give much credibility to AFL trade rumours.

Is anyone else getting confused between Matt79 and Matt80 ???? Have they been seen in the same room together?

Haha, certainly not related in any way!!

[Matt80]

I'm 33 and I assume Matt79 is 34?

[BillyRayCypress]

I'm 33 and I assume Matt79 is 34?

Well that's a relief. I thought it might have been a couple of old fella's let loose on their pc's.

[MightyBloods]

Exactly. I think a good ruckman is hard to replace like-for-like. Trading for ruckmen is potentially very expensive when compared to developing younger rucks.

May as well develop two NSW boys with great potential.

I'd argue the opposite. Clubs spend heaps on drafting and developing their players. History says that drafting a young ruckman is one of the more risky strategies. I'm a believer in drafting midfielders then KPP's before a ruckman. I'm more inclined to trade for a developed ruckman (ie Jolly, Mumford) and draft a young ruckman late for depth. You are closer to knowing what you get with a more developed ruckman. Misses in the draft can cost clubs dearly both financially and playing success.

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Wouldn't the Swans need to agree to a trade first? And can that happen before trade week?

GWS could get Mummy for nothing in the pre-season draft.

[Ludwig]

I'm 33 and I assume Matt79 is 34?

Matt79 is probably the future you in a parallel universe; a universe where the Swans win the 2013 Grand Final.

[DK_]

GWS could get Mummy for nothing in the pre-season draft.

I thought clubs tended to trade rather than take this path - a sort of gentlemen's agreement to avoid being screwed over in the same way at other times (though of course, the option is still open if a club refuses to negotiate). Interested to hear if history backs this up.

Regardless, whether he's going via trade week or the preseason draft, Mummy could not possibly be about to sign a contract with GWS.

[Matt80]

We talk about our potent tall forward line, but GWS next season will have the most potent tall forward line in the AFL.

Their tall forward line could be Cameron, Patton, Boyd (draft pick one), Franklin (free agent), Mumford (resting ruckman with Griffin! That is scary!

The Swans would need both Sam Reid and Jesse White playing in the back line with Grundy, Richards and LRT just to cope!

[Swansinger]

I have faith that the club will make careful , considered , correct decisions.

I will throw in another C-word . If he's fit and if he really has a burning desire to play on , should we take a punt on my 2nd- favourite opposition player of all time , Paul Chapman ?

No idea if he's being considered by us , but there will surely be several clubs - and not just the cellar dwellers - pondering an offer of a one-year deal.

[liz]

I have faith that the club will make careful , considered , correct decisions.

I will throw in another C-word . If he's fit and if he really has a burning desire to play on , should we take a punt on my 2nd- favourite opposition player of all time , Paul Chapman ?

No idea if he's being considered by us , but there will surely be several clubs - and not just the cellar dwellers - pondering an offer of a one-year deal.

Didak too?

My guess is that recruiting either of these players would turn out in a similar fashion to the recruitments of Tingay and Bradshaw.

[goswannies]

Didak too?

My guess is that recruiting either of these players would turn out in a similar fashion to the recruitments of Tingay and Bradshaw.

Daffy. Scott Russell. Dermie the list goes on ....

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We talk about our potent tall forward line, but GWS next season will have the most potent tall forward line in the AFL.

Their tall forward line could be Cameron, Patton, Boyd (draft pick one), Franklin (free agent), Mumford (resting ruckman with Griffin! That is scary!

The Swans would need both Sam Reid and Jesse White playing in the back line with Grundy, Richards and LRT just to cope!

Rediculous! Just engrave GW$ on the cup for the next few years. Thanks Demetriou. Way to make a balanced competition.

[vlg303]

I'd argue the opposite. Clubs spend heaps on drafting and developing their players. History says that drafting a young ruckman is one of the more risky strategies. I'm a believer in drafting midfielders then KPP's before a ruckman. I'm more inclined to trade for a developed ruckman (ie Jolly, Mumford) and draft a young ruckman late for depth. You are closer to knowing what you get with a more developed ruckman. Misses in the draft can cost clubs dearly both financially and playing success.

I agree that it is not wise to draft big bodied positions as teenagers for the reasons you said i.e. risk of injury. However, it is financially unsustainable to continue to trade for these positions. So I believe the investment in Naismith is well received, and signing an early twenty yr old as a rookie to complement Naismith would set the Swans up without being financially and tactically cumbersome on the club.

Do we know any more about the US international signing Patrick Mitchell and what position he is set to be developed as?

[Swansinger]

Naah , not Didak - too bogan ! Mind you , we have had some terrific trades dealing with the Pies .Tingay recruitment was silly. Bradshaw ? Worth it for that R6 game and that goal v Lions alone !

Yeah , you could be right . Like I say , a club would need to be convinced of Chappie's fitness. The Swans cannot afford to look silly - and Chappie does not deserve an ignominious end.