Swans 2013 Draft Strategy

[chuckie]

It doesn't look good for Biggs to be on our senior list with now only 4 draft picks available.
In my opinion he is a better player than Brandon Jack and if you go by there stats he is a much better player.
Biggs played in 3 tough games compared to most of Jack's were easily won.
He was even preferred to him in the finals games when both were available.
According to Gerald Healy and Dwayne Russell on their radio show he cannot be re rookied without going into the rookie draft which would make him available for anybody to choose.

[liz]

and I'd want the number 15 pick to be elite on both feet, fast and able to find the ball in a bull dust storm.

Do we have a single player on our list who is quick, a ball magnet and elite on both feet? And yet you expect to find one sitting at no 15 in this year's draft?

[stellation]

Do we have a single player on our list who is quick, a ball magnet and elite on both feet? And yet you expect to find one sitting at no 15 in this year's draft?

It is a little optimistic, I have to agree.

[Industrial Fan]

Do we have a single player on our list who is quick, a ball magnet and elite on both feet? And yet you expect to find one sitting at no 15 in this year's draft?

Is Paul Williams the last player to match that description?

[DeadlyAkkuret]

It doesn't look good for Biggs to be on our senior list with now only 4 draft picks available.
In my opinion he is a better player than Brandon Jack and if you go by there stats he is a much better player.
Biggs played in 3 tough games compared to most of Jack's were easily won.
He was even preferred to him in the finals games when both were available.
According to Gerald Healy and Dwayne Russell on their radio show he cannot be re rookied without going into the rookie draft which would make him available for anybody to choose.

We're losing Biggs now?

[Mug Punter]

is he ready and if so what pick ?

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Not in 100 years thank you... Wish him all the best but has trouble all over him which is why most AFL clubs have written a line through him. Suspect the Hawks may take a punt on him but he'll go in the 50s or 60s you would think

[Ludwig]

Do we have a single player on our list who is quick, a ball magnet and elite on both feet? And yet you expect to find one sitting at no 15 in this year's draft?

Although I would take Acres if available, Lewis Taylor fits Wolf's description. He's quick, a ball magnet and 'bi-footeral'. (I was looking for an opportunity to use that word.) The other one, who came up as 24 on Emma Quayle's top 25 list is George Hewitt. He also has these qualities. I thought it might be a bit of a reach at pick 15, but I'm starting to think he could be the surprise package of this draft as he's the youngest player in the draft and is already showing signs of 'eliteness'. His listed height is 185 at 17 yo, so you would think he could end up closer to 190 cm. Worth a look at his video: george-hewett

[swans]

I would take CAM MCCARTHY

Contested marking machine with a big tank. Could be a unique key forward who pushes up to the wing.

WE SAY: Shades of Matthew Richardson

Why because we can.

[GordonS]

I would take CAM MCCARTHY

Contested marking machine with a big tank. Could be a unique key forward who pushes up to the wing.

WE SAY: Shades of Matthew Richardson

Why because we can.

buddy, tippett, reid.... doubt he'll get a game.

[sharp9]

I cant see the sense in drafting a young ruckman so early (in first 40 picks) in a National Draft. We can always use our future first or second round picks to land a mature and performing ruckman in future years. Look how the Hawks gained McEvoy and the Pies gained Jolly. Also there are the restricted and unrestricted free agents in coming years. I would prefer to draft young talent in positions other than ruck. The ruck players generally take way longer to develop.I can only think of 2 over the past years that landed on their feet quickly to impact games (Naitanui & Grundy). I would tend to use a late pick in the National draft or our first pick in the pre-season draft to gain a more mature ruckman as insurance for injury.

McEvoy was pick 9, I think and Ryder pick 7 (?) Hale pick 8 and McIntosh top ten too (I think!)....Er....Leuenberger 3(?), Longer 7 -Bellchambers???? - so yea, nah to your theory :-)

[Ludwig]

McEvoy was pick 9, I think and Ryder pick 7 (?) Hale pick 8 and McIntosh top ten too (I think!)....Er....Leuenberger 3(?), Longer 7 -Bellchambers???? - so yea, nah to your theory :-)

There have been plenty of ruckmen picked high up the order. You left out Josh Fraser, who I think went pick 1, and Kreuzer, who was certainly pick 1, and of course NicNat, who is one that I would say is good value for money. But there are plenty of flops, like Cameron Wood, and stars like Dean Cox that came off the rookie list. There is usually a very long development period for ruckmen and sometimes you let them go before they come of age. Currie might be an example of this.

I think it's not a good year for us to take another ruckman. Let's hope that Naismith has a good run with injury in 2014, Pat Mitchell learns the game quickly and Taubert can make something out of Tom Derickx. We've got enough ruck ammo to get us through next season and will have a better idea how things stand with our ruckmen in development stages.

[swans]

buddy, tippett, reid.... doubt he'll get a game.

Reid will be playing at centre half back in 2014 from time to time.

One answer. Gws has picked the best forward in the draft each year.

Forwards
Gws .. Patton, Cameron, Boyd.
Swans .. Tippett McCarthy, buddy

Swans in 2014 we need to move Reid to the back line.

Gun Forwards are the hardest player to find in the draft that,s why we just payed 9 million for one and lost four players.
Drafting gun forwards is a cheaper option.
Mid field players we don't, need.
Centre half back. Else centre half forward then move Reid back.

It depending what is there at pick 15.

[Ludwig]

Reid will be playing at centre half back in 2014 from time to time.

One answer. Gws has picked the best forward in the draft each year.

Forwards
Gws .. Patton, Cameron, Boyd.
Swans .. Tippett McCarthy, buddy

Swans in 2014 we need to move Reid to the back line.

Gun Forwards are the hardest player to find in the draft that,s why we just payed 9 million for one and lost four players.
Drafting gun forwards is a cheaper option.
Mid field players we don't, need.
Centre half back. Else centre half forward then move Reid back.

It depending what is there at pick 15.

I don't think McCarthy will be around by pick 15. Brisbane and Collingwood have both shown interest, and it's hard to see him getting past Carlton at pick 13, whose only decent forward is the soon to be 31 yo Jarrad Waite.

With 2 big forwards in Tippett and Franklin, and a couple of young medium sized ones in Rohan and Membrey, the forward line doesn't seem to be a high priority, but I do see your point of getting another tall forward to allow Reid to play at CHB and help solve the tall defender requirements. Jonathan Marsh and Darcy Hourigan may well be available for our picks in the 30s and could be good 3rd talls, allowing Reid or even Rohan to move into defense. There's been some word that Marsh could drop into the 3rd round, which would be interesting since some have slated him to go in the teens or early 20s.

[aardvark]

Anyone interested??????

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[SimonH]

Anyone interested??????

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Would have been a good pick for GWS at the end of 2011 when the Swans delisted him. A mature body who gets the best out of himself each week with a never-say-die attitude would have helped GWS avoid a number of dispiriting fade-out thumpings that they've received in the last 2 years. Nowadays: only if someone (like GWS, a la the James McDonald/CCornes/D Brogan situation) is after a playing assistant coach/player mentor.

On another topic: it has been holy writ at the Swans for at least a decade, that you do not get value picking ruckmen at the top end of the draft. You trade for rucks and/or develop them from late ND and RD (including international rookie!) picks. Even Lewis Johnston, who's obviously no ruckman, was a big exception by us in terms of taking bigger blokes with our first round pick?was both perceived to best available, and filled a specific (perceived) need at the time. Beyond that, it's mid-sized players all the way, baby. For the Swans to do a volte face on that dearly-held belief, in a draft where the vast bulk of the decent players who'll be left by pick 15 are mid-sized, would be a quite a surprise.