The Real Cost of Buddy?

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  • Doctor
    Bay 29
    • Sep 2003
    • 2757

    As I have said all along, Franklin-type contracts will become the norm now that free agency is in. In time, the Swans will be seen to have copped it for being first to recognise it rather than the size of the deal.
    Today's a draft of your epitaph

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    • Mr Magoo
      Senior Player
      • May 2008
      • 1255

      Theoretically if the salary cape doubles within five years or even increases by 50% and you said that player salaries would all correspondingly do the same, then most of the swans top half dozen players will probably be on similar money at that time.

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      • ScottH
        It's Goodes to cheer!!
        • Sep 2003
        • 23665

        Franklin creates havoc.

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        • MightyBloods
          Regular in the Side
          • Feb 2012
          • 532

          Originally posted by Ludwig
          Word is that Frawley has already been offered 800 k to change clubs, so that's the new base.
          Adelaide

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          • Matt80
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Sep 2013
            • 1802

            This thread is becoming the Swans expat thread.

            Mumford has gone down with a minor knee and will miss two weeks.

            Everette and Jed Lamb got plenty of game time for their new clubs in losing efforts.

            Jesse White was highly impressive for Collingwood on Friday night. On a slippery night he contributed 3 goals, 4 tackles and 7 marks. He was the best key forward on the ground. The Magpies are very impressed with his work rate and athleticism. Good to see him doing well.

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            • aguy
              Senior Player
              • Mar 2014
              • 1324

              Originally posted by Matt80
              This thread is becoming the Swans expat thread.

              Mumford has gone down with a minor knee and will miss two weeks.

              Everette and Jed Lamb got plenty of game time for their new clubs in losing efforts.

              Jesse White was highly impressive for Collingwood on Friday night. On a slippery night he contributed 3 goals, 4 tackles and 7 marks. He was the best key forward on the ground. The Magpies are very impressed with his work rate and athleticism. Good to see him doing well.
              Actually mummy had a knee operation yesterday during the game. Sounds like he's still struggling with injury. It's probably because he's so hustling and bustling.

              Hopefully Tippett and Reid get over their proneness to injury.

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              • bloodsbigot
                Regular in the Side
                • Mar 2010
                • 813

                Yep, for every good thing Mummy did and as much as I loved him, he still faded waaaaay too much during the season and missed too many games.

                The player I'm most upset about losing is Lamb and he hasn't even started that many games yet.

                Not particularly interested in Everitt or White.

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                • Matt80
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 1802

                  Did anyone just see Jesse White's towering goal square mark against North Melbourne? Outstanding!

                  Out of the players we lost at the end of 2013, he is by far the biggest loss for the Swans!

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                  • DamY
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1479

                    Mmm I like White but gimme Buddy anyday

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                    • Matt80
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 1802

                      Originally posted by DamY
                      Mmm I like White but gimme Buddy anyday
                      Jesse White has just shown great agility and pace to score his second. Dunstall commented on his exceptional pace from a standing start.

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                      • ScottH
                        It's Goodes to cheer!!
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 23665

                        Originally posted by Matt80
                        Jesse White has just shown great agility and pace to score his second. Dunstall commented on his exceptional pace from a standing start.
                        Many of us never doubted his talent. Just his ability to show that talent consistently.
                        Maybe he is getting better service from the mids at the pies than our rabble.

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                        • goswannies
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 3049

                          Originally posted by Matt80
                          Out of the players we lost at the end of 2013, he is by far the biggest loss for the Swans!
                          The Swans have recruited a number of players who we already stars in their own right before they came to us (Buddy, Plugger, Roosey, Willow, Davis, Ball)

                          We have lost some bonafide stars, players who we knew were talented or players who would almost certainly be stars (Grant, Rocca, Jolly, Mummy, Dempster, Schneider) ... guys we didn't really want to lose.

                          We let a few guys go who we suspected wouldn't make it or were past it (and were proven correct - Vespa, Monty, Powell)

                          We have benefitted from MANY more players requiring a change of scenery to improve and to get the best out of themselves, players who looked like they might not make it at their previous clubs, but turned their careers around BIG TIME (Teddy, Joey, Gopher, Craig Bolton, Jolly, Mummy?)

                          Not too often have we let a player go who we underrated. Might've been the case with Jesse, but on the whole, I think our recruiters are in the black with their trades & recruiting.

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                          • Matt80
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 1802

                            I was not having a go at our recruiters. I think Jesse would have got to Collingwood regardless of the recruitment of Franklin.

                            I just feel that the coaching staff always favoured Sam Reid, when Jesse had more God given talent. His talent just required patience, time, and a coach who believed in him. I don't think Longmire believed in him and it was a selection disgrace that Tommy Walsh was favoured to big Jesse. Now Jesse has Buckley and a Collingwood team who appreciate him.

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                            • Ruck'n'Roll
                              Ego alta, ergo ictus
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 3990

                              While not questioning your description of the coaches perceptiom of Jessie, Matt80 (you comments are valid).
                              However, while not wanting to be viewed as a cynic: I find it just a little too coincidental that Jessie"s best form showed up shortly after the club demonstrated that you can't get by on talent - and tried to include him in the Kurt deal.
                              Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 23 April 2014, 12:56 PM.

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                              • DamY
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 1479

                                Boom.

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