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  • ernie koala
    Senior Player
    • May 2007
    • 3251

    For Membrey to come in...Which many on here are screaming for.

    It would probably mean Rohan to go out. Plenty of us think he should be given a full game.

    I know there are other scenarios, but that would be a forward flanker for a forward flanker, which makes sense.

    I'm in both camps.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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    • graemed
      Swans2win
      • Jan 2003
      • 410

      Originally posted by Go Swannies
      Fibnal point - I wonder if Nick Mal will play? There was definitely something wrong with him and his kicking on Saturday.
      As someone who thinks Malceski's kicking and decision making is direly overrated. It didn't look any worse or better than any other day. My objection to mal is his lack of intensity when the ball is turned over especially when he is forced to go one out.

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      • Conor_Dillon
        On the Rookie List
        • Jun 2013
        • 1224

        Although they might not necessarily deserve it, I would love to see Rohan and B.Jack both given full games this week. Tell them to just get the leather and run at every opportunity, if they get caught a few times then so be it but they're both desperately lacking confidence and the wide expanses of the MCG against a lowly ranked Richmond could be the perfect place to find it. They both offer huge x-factor and if they could potentially find some form in the back half of the season it could come in very handy in September.
        In saying that, if Jones is to debut it would be great to get a full game into him as well...so maybe give Jetts the green vest to give him a bit of a spell.
        On another note, I'm not sure what else Membrey has to do to get a game but I'd say his best chance will be later in the season against a weaker opposition when Goodesy needs a bit of a freshen up...most likely in round 21 or 22.
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        • goods78
          Warming the Bench
          • Sep 2012
          • 269

          Originally posted by graemed
          As someone who thinks Malceski's kicking and decision making is direly overrated. It didn't look any worse or better than any other day. My objection to mal is his lack of intensity when the ball is turned over especially when he is forced to go one out.
          -1 graemed! Nick's kicking is elite and I am very comfortable with him ball in hand off HB. His defence is solid, but his main role is a linking distributor out of HB. He would be a walk up start in any teams back line.

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          • DK_
            On the Rookie List
            • Jun 2013
            • 454

            Originally posted by Scottee

            The other option would be to choose a HBF from Biggs or Matty Dick to free up the existing defenders to play in the middle (Smith, Shaw or Rampe all of whom are ex midfielders of some ability). Again the Rookie elevation dilemma is raised by the elevation of Biggs.
            I think there's next to zero chance of Horse playing with the back 6. Stability back there is one of his key strategies that worked very well in 2012 but was killed by injury in 2013.

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            • ernie koala
              Senior Player
              • May 2007
              • 3251

              Originally posted by goods78
              -1 graemed! Nick's kicking is elite and I am very comfortable with him ball in hand off HB. His defence is solid, but his main role is a linking distributor out of HB. He would be a walk up start in any teams back line.
              +1. He's been playing really well for the last 3 years, I can't believe the criticism.

              He is the one player who always looks, and often delivers, straight up the centre of the ground, which often opens up scoring oportunities

              He is our best distributor, defends well, goes forward to kick occasional goals, and IMO, if he keeps his form up he'll be in discussions for AA selection.
              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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              • magic.merkin
                Senior Player
                • Jul 2008
                • 1199

                yep on mal

                very interesting selections this weekend. I can see merit in all the choice above.

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                • ShockOfHair
                  One Man Out
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 3668

                  Originally posted by ernie koala
                  +1. He's been playing really well for the last 3 years, I can't believe the criticism.

                  He is the one player who always looks, and often delivers, straight up the centre of the ground, which often opens up scoring oportunities

                  He is our best distributor, defends well, goes forward to kick occasional goals, and IMO, if he keeps his form up he'll be in discussions for AA selection.
                  Yeah, Melcho is one of the first players the opposition target. If you can halve the output of Malceski and Hanna you put a big hole in our game plan.


                  Historical narratives:

                  We haven't beaten Richmond at the G for five years. Holland have never beaten Australia.
                  The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                  • Mr Magoo
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2008
                    • 1255

                    Originally posted by ShockOfHair
                    Yeah, Melcho is one of the first players the opposition target. If you can halve the output of Malceski and Hanna you put a big hole in our game plan.


                    Historical narratives:

                    We haven't beaten Richmond at the G for five years. Holland have never beaten Australia.
                    So when Holland kill Australia tonight we can assume the same is in stall for Richmond

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      The following came from the News Corp/Champion Data mid-year assessment of all the clubs. Under The Bad for the Swans:

                      The midfielders are masking the problem with their ground level dominance, but since Round 5 they have won 72 fewer gathers from teammate hitouts than their opposition ? a differential 49 worse than any other team in the competition.

                      Who's been our Number 1 ruckman during this time? I can't remember?

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                      • aguy
                        Senior Player
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 1324

                        Well tonight the game of guess who is coming in and going out comes to a climax when teams are announced. I love playing this game

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                        • stellation
                          scott names the planets
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 9720

                          Originally posted by Ludwig
                          The following came from the News Corp/Champion Data mid-year assessment of all the clubs. Under The Bad for the Swans:

                          The midfielders are masking the problem with their ground level dominance, but since Round 5 they have won 72 fewer gathers from teammate hitouts than their opposition ? a differential 49 worse than any other team in the competition.

                          Who's been our Number 1 ruckman during this time? I can't remember?
                          For the first 2 and a bit it was Pyke. They were soundly beaten in rounds 5 and 6 by two very good ruckmen in Sandi and Jamar, and that would have had a pretty fair whack of hitouts to advantage (which I assume is where the differential comes from) involved. There's not a lot of refinement in Tom's ruckwork so he's less likely to pickup hitouts to advantage, and our midfield appears to setup mindful of that (for both Tom and Sam), Tippett is the only one I can recall seeing the group setup to win the tap and it's hard to say if that's because of his ruckwork (I do think he is a very skillfull tap ruckman) or if it's simply because he is taking them in the F50 so they would logically setup to be attacking anyway. As a team we are last in average hitouts in the comp, yet we are middle of the road for clearances (both around the ground and centre clearances) which suggests to me they're not setting up to win the tap (which reduces Tom's ability to rack up a couple of hitout to advantage stats, as well).

                          He's been regularly beaten, certainly not denying that- but he's also been consistently coming up against decent ruckmen, it's not entirely just him making them look good.
                          I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                          We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                          • longmile
                            Crumber
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 3366

                            Derrickx is the master of hit outs to the other teams advantage
                            I've seen him do it far more times than to our own lads

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                            • Ludwig
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              I know I've been bagging Tom D a lot, but it's just because I think Nankervis could offer so much more. What a perfect opportunity to give him a game going up against those Tigerland statues in Maric and Hampson. He could play mostly forward anyway.

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                              • Plugger46
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 3674

                                Originally posted by Ludwig
                                I know I've been bagging Tom D a lot, but it's just because I think Nankervis could offer so much more. What a perfect opportunity to give him a game going up against those Tigerland statues in Maric and Hampson. He could play mostly forward anyway.
                                He probably hasn't got the tank that Derickx has got. Clearly on pure football ability, Nankervis is streets ahead but Derickx plays 90%+ of each game. Not many can do that.
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