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  • aardvark
    Veterans List
    • Mar 2010
    • 5685

    Originally posted by YvonneH
    Also says we have spoken to Leuenberger.
    Hopefully to tell him we're not interested.

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    • chalbilto
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2007
      • 1139

      With respect to Leuenberger I hope the Swans don't pursue him. See how the current rucks go in 2016 then if needed pursue a ruckman in the 2016 trade period.

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      • WauchopeAnalyst
        Regular in the Side
        • Sep 2008
        • 834

        Maybe Swans like Giraffes???

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        • Mug Punter
          On the Rookie List
          • Nov 2009
          • 3325

          Originally posted by Flying South
          Bennell is the one we must chase. We need some x factor in our midfield. Someone who can produce a little magic. I feel he will be chased hard by other clubs so we should be prepared to give up a bit to get him. I assume we will get a 1st round for Jetta. Not sure that will be enough for Gold Coast so I would package up a player. GC need forwards, so I would package up Reid. It is a lot, but i really rate Bennell and that sort of player doesn't come around very often.
          No thanks

          Hope for his sake he gets another chance but please not with us, pretty sure we won't have the cap space or picks to throw at him anyway.

          Would much prefer to be investing in our academy products who have been thoroughly dickhead proofed

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          • CureTheSane
            Carpe Noctem
            • Jan 2003
            • 5032

            I hear Tony Armstrong is in the hunt for a new club <---- note smilie face
            The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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            • troyjones2525
              Swans Fanatic!
              • Mar 2008
              • 2908

              There are 4 players who i think we should really target hard in this off season if the trade restrictions are lifted or at least loosened. Here they are in order.

              #1 is Harley Bennell. I know he has baggage and many on here are scared off by it but his talent is too great to ignore and if we lose Jetta then we don't have anyone on the list with silky skills. I would hope that if he agreed to come to the swans it would be because of our great culture and past success stories in turning people around. Bottom line people is that if he gets himself right he has Brownlow talent and could be the best player on our list!

              #2 Jake Carlisle. Word is he will stay in Victoria but we need to do what we can to try and change his mind. He could hold down a key back post for the next 10 years and along with Sam Reid we could have 2 of the great marking talents in the league!

              Speaking of marking #3 Jeremy Howe. He's 25 and while he's only 190 cm he plays tall and is one of the best marks in the league who could be a weapon at either end on the small S.C.G. He's gettable i believe and would be a great addition to our list.

              Lastly #4 Jack Watts. Yes i know he's been a huge disappointment for Demons fans but perhaps a fresh start with a stronger club would do him wonders! He's got height, is a good mark, great foot skills for a bloke his size and more importantly he has footy smarts and makes pretty good decisions with ball in hand. Yes he hasn't developed into the big strong key forward that many thought he would but he undoubtedly has talent and being a third option forward with buddy and Tippett in the side plus perhaps playing on the wing as he has at the Demons he could again be a major weapon on the small S.C.G floating forward or back with his height and marking ability. He could go reasonably cheap for a former number 1 pick and still has plenty of footy left in him in the right environment.

              Well I'm sure there's others who i might want us to make a play for in the coming weeks but they are my top 4 at this present time. What do the people of RWO think?

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                1. Harley Bennell - sublime talent. If he was in this years draft would be top three. Should be considered

                2. Jake Carlisle - wants to stay in Melbourne and we don't have the picks to get him here.

                3. Jeremy Howe - a highlights reel but wants big $ and doesn't get the ball enough

                4. Jack Watts - have seen him play some good games as the floater across half back but don't think he is worth whatever Melb want for him. Likely to be a Swans BF whipping boy!

                So go go Bennell and only Bennell.

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                • sprite
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 813

                  The only upside to Bennell is he can run and cut lines.

                  Too much baggage and probably too expensive.
                  sprite

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                  • Dosser
                    Just wild about Harry
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1833

                    Tom Harley on SEN today indicated that the ban may not be lifted, however the ceiling amount that we can play with may be raised to about $500k. He also said that Jetta is not a FA and therefore a deal would have to be done with WC if that is where he is going.

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                    • bloodspirit
                      Clubman
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 4448

                      Originally posted by troyjones2525
                      There are 4 players who i think we should really target hard in this off season if the trade restrictions are lifted or at least loosened. Here they are in order.

                      #1 is Harley Bennell. I know he has baggage and many on here are scared off by it but his talent is too great to ignore and if we lose Jetta then we don't have anyone on the list with silky skills. I would hope that if he agreed to come to the swans it would be because of our great culture and past success stories in turning people around. Bottom line people is that if he gets himself right he has Brownlow talent and could be the best player on our list!

                      #2 Jake Carlisle. Word is he will stay in Victoria but we need to do what we can to try and change his mind. He could hold down a key back post for the next 10 years and along with Sam Reid we could have 2 of the great marking talents in the league!

                      Speaking of marking #3 Jeremy Howe. He's 25 and while he's only 190 cm he plays tall and is one of the best marks in the league who could be a weapon at either end on the small S.C.G. He's gettable i believe and would be a great addition to our list.

                      Lastly #4 Jack Watts. Yes i know he's been a huge disappointment for Demons fans but perhaps a fresh start with a stronger club would do him wonders! He's got height, is a good mark, great foot skills for a bloke his size and more importantly he has footy smarts and makes pretty good decisions with ball in hand. Yes he hasn't developed into the big strong key forward that many thought he would but he undoubtedly has talent and being a third option forward with buddy and Tippett in the side plus perhaps playing on the wing as he has at the Demons he could again be a major weapon on the small S.C.G floating forward or back with his height and marking ability. He could go reasonably cheap for a former number 1 pick and still has plenty of footy left in him in the right environment.

                      Well I'm sure there's others who i might want us to make a play for in the coming weeks but they are my top 4 at this present time. What do the people of RWO think?
                      Am I missing something? Are people overlooking the small matter of the trading BAN? I know we have hopes of having it removed but until that happens it might be more sensible not to pretend it doesn't exist.

                      Also, common sense seems to have flown the coop with this fantasy shopping list: how on earth could we pay for it all?? Bennell alone is out of our league - we don't have the picks and you'd have to wonder about salary cap space too. None of the others will be easy to get either. If they were free agents might be a different story.
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                      • Mug Punter
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 3325

                        Originally posted by 707
                        1. Harley Bennell - sublime talent. If he was in this years draft would be top three. Should be considered

                        2. Jake Carlisle - wants to stay in Melbourne and we don't have the picks to get him here.

                        3. Jeremy Howe - a highlights reel but wants big $ and doesn't get the ball enough

                        4. Jack Watts - have seen him play some good games as the floater across half back but don't think he is worth whatever Melb want for him. Likely to be a Swans BF whipping boy!

                        So go go Bennell and only Bennell.
                        I'm happy with our current list

                        If we lose Jetta then I think we'll beable to trade in someone on around the same coin if the higher figure is to be believed.

                        If not then you'd think we'd be bringing in Muills, Dunks Jnr, Sam Naismith and one additional academy kid. Out will be Bird, Robbo, Goodes and Shaw.

                        Possible that we'll delist a player and bring in a bargain basement recruite a la Laidler but overall I am pretty happy with our list at the moment

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                        • RogueSwan
                          McVeigh for Brownlow
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 4602

                          Originally posted by bloodspirit
                          ...Also, common sense seems to have flown the coop with this fantasy shopping list:...
                          You seem to forget it is the silly season. All sorts of wild possibilities are thrown up at this time of year.
                          I mean, as if Buddy would move from Hawthorn to Sydney, especially after they just won the Premiership and the Swans had already signed Tippett the year before.
                          "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                          • Dosser
                            Just wild about Harry
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1833

                            A straight swap of Jetta for Shuey will be fine for me - especially if WCE pay half of his salary for the first year while the ban is on

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                            • jono2707
                              Goes up to 11
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 3326

                              I seriously doubt whether we'd be any more that bit players at best during the trade period this year. We have Buddy's contract to worry about for the next 7 years, and we have tied up most of our young talent already this year. Surely we have little to spend already, even with a retirement and departure or two???

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                              • Dosser
                                Just wild about Harry
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 1833

                                Dont forget that we also had departures last year that we were unable to replace. Unless that excess has been absorbed into contract upgrades, we may be building up a nice little war chest for next year.

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