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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
    Yes, I'd certainly like to see Rohan having a dash off the halfback flank.
    At this point in time Rohan seems more needed off halfback to add some dash on the rebound. I think Heeney will stay in the forward line for a few years as Hewett, Jones, Mills and Dunkley are more natural inside players and don't offer what Heeney does on the outside. We have lots of players contending for small/mid size forward roles including Towers, Rose, Hiscox, BJ and the veteran McGlynn, and none of them are natural backline players. Our best hope for adding some halfback dash besides Rohan is Nic Newman. Harry Marsh, if retained (and I hope he is), does have the pace and penetrating kick to fill the role, but so far has been working more on the defensive side of his game. And we have to wait and see about the Irishman O'Riordan.

    There are some other possibilities for the backline. Macca has played well there before, but wasn't that good last season and doesn't exactly provide much pace; Jones is quick enough, but not in the class of Rohan; Mills played halfback for a while in the reserves and looked okay, but I think Mills will look fine just about anywhere on the ground.

    Towers may be the key to it all. If he can keep improving and hold down a forward spot, then it frees up Rohan to play elsewhere. If not, we may need Gazza up forward.
    Last edited by Ludwig; 26 October 2015, 12:48 AM.

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    • RogueSwan
      McVeigh for Brownlow
      • Apr 2003
      • 4602

      Originally posted by Mug Punter
      ..... Talia's inclusion makes our backline look a lot more solid and I like the balance of a back 6 of Ted, Reg, Smith, Rampe, Talia and Jones but don't be surprised in Laidler's rises to the challenge and plays every game either, he is one of the most underrated players in the side and I just love the way he goes about his footy...
      It would be unusual for Talia to not play from the beginning as has generally been the case for new players brought in. I still hope Laids stays in as he definitely turned a corner last year. He plays hard and does not give up. I don't know what we get with Talia but I like what we get with Laids.
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      • RogueSwan
        McVeigh for Brownlow
        • Apr 2003
        • 4602

        Originally posted by Ludwig
        ...
        There are some other possibilities for the backline. Macca has played well there before, but wasn't that good last season and doesn't exactly provide much pace; Jones is quick enough, but not in the class of Rohan; Mills played halfback for a while in the reserves and looked okay, but I think Mills will look fine just about anywhere on the ground.
        ....
        I don't think we definitely need leg speed more someone with a really good kick. Shaw had speed but often got us nowhere because he would kick it to the opposition. Malceski wasn't necessarily fast but he had a very good, penetrating kick.
        Who on the team can provide that? Macca? Yes. Maybe even Heeney? From what I have seen of his kicking, often to Buddy, he is good. Rohan? I think it would be like going back to Shaw but with better tackling skills.
        Hodge has been one of the best half backs in recent times and he is by no means considered fast.
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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          Originally posted by RogueSwan
          I don't think we definitely need leg speed more someone with a really good kick. Shaw had speed but often got us nowhere because he would kick it to the opposition. Malceski wasn't necessarily fast but he had a very good, penetrating kick.
          Who on the team can provide that? Macca? Yes. Maybe even Heeney? From what I have seen of his kicking, often to Buddy, he is good. Rohan? I think it would be like going back to Shaw but with better tackling skills.
          Hodge has been one of the best half backs in recent times and he is by no means considered fast.
          I won't disagree with you there. I was in fact thinking of adding a similar line in my last post. I can't decide what the best spot for Macca will be next year. Halfback seems most natural, but he made some terrible kicking blunders this year that I hope was an aberration. Nic Newman is the one that best fits the bill as he's the closest thing we've got to a Malceski. I hope he has a solid pre-season and we give him a go at halfback. It would really go a long way to giving our defence a boost.

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          • YvonneH
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2011
            • 1141

            Originally posted by Ludwig
            I don't know what the round 1 side will be, but I think this may be the side at mid season:

            B: Smith Grundy Talia
            HB: Rohan Richards Rampe
            C: K.Jack Macca Parker
            HF: Heeney Franklin Hannebery
            F: Tippett Reid Cunningham
            FOL: Naismith Mitchell Kennedy
            I/C: Mills Hewett Jones Towers
            emergencies: Lloyd McGlynn Robo, Newman, Laidler Sinclair
            The 3 R's off HB ala reading, riting, rithmatic (just joking with the spelling).

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            • Conor_Dillon
              On the Rookie List
              • Jun 2013
              • 1224

              I believe Rampe will be given a much more attacking role this year with the inclusion of Talia to the backline.

              He has the pace, power, agility and penetration to be an 80-90 metre player coming out of the backline which we will be crying out for given Jetta's absence.

              I know he has been somewhat pidgeon-holed to the backline at this stage, but I still think Jones -if he has the tank- will be a great addition to our midfield. He has the raw aggression and attack on the ball/man that will really give us a much harder edge at contests. He is also really clean below his knees - absolutely no reason he can't become a faster, more skilled version of his big brother!
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              • 111431
                Regular in the Side
                • Sep 2010
                • 697

                Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
                I believe Rampe will be given a much more attacking role this year with the inclusion of Talia to the backline.

                He has the pace, power, agility and penetration to be an 80-90 metre player coming out of the backline which we will be crying out for given Jetta's absence.

                I know he has been somewhat pidgeon-holed to the backline at this stage, but I still think Jones -if he has the tank- will be a great addition to our midfield. He has the raw aggression and attack on the ball/man that will really give us a much harder edge at contests. He is also really clean below his knees - absolutely no reason he can't become a faster, more skilled version of his big brother!
                needs to temper his temper !

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                • RogueSwan
                  McVeigh for Brownlow
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 4602

                  Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
                  I believe Rampe will be given a much more attacking role this year with the inclusion of Talia to the backline.

                  He has the pace, power, agility and penetration to be an 80-90 metre player coming out of the backline which we will be crying out for given Jetta's absence.

                  I know he has been somewhat pidgeon-holed to the backline at this stage, but I still think Jones -if he has the tank- will be a great addition to our midfield. He has the raw aggression and attack on the ball/man that will really give us a much harder edge at contests. He is also really clean below his knees - absolutely no reason he can't become a faster, more skilled version of his big brother!
                  I agree with both.
                  I would be more confident giving Rampe an attacking/rebounding role than his current more defensive role.

                  Originally posted by 111431
                  needs to temper his temper !
                  Don't we need someone who rides that line of almost losing it but not. Hell, Dawks having been jumping over that line for years and it hasn't hurt them.
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                  • Conor_Dillon
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 1224

                    We definitely need more physical intimidation from our midfield...here's hoping Parker and Jones will deliver for that for the best part of the next decade. Heeney seems to have a bit of it in him as well.
                    Twitter @cmdil
                    Instagram @conordillon

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                    • barry
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8499

                      I think talia will be one of the best pickups of the 2017.

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                      • Mug Punter
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 3325

                        Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
                        I believe Rampe will be given a much more attacking role this year with the inclusion of Talia to the backline.

                        He has the pace, power, agility and penetration to be an 80-90 metre player coming out of the backline which we will be crying out for given Jetta's absence.

                        I know he has been somewhat pidgeon-holed to the backline at this stage, but I still think Jones -if he has the tank- will be a great addition to our midfield. He has the raw aggression and attack on the ball/man that will really give us a much harder edge at contests. He is also really clean below his knees - absolutely no reason he can't become a faster, more skilled version of his big brother!
                        Rampe has improved every single year he has been on the list, despite a few wobbles this season, the only thing with him is if thinks he has made it he may plateau, he needs to feel he is playing for his spot every game.

                        I think he could also be good off the HBF he has an absolute peach of a left foot

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                        • Conor_Dillon
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 1224

                          Originally posted by Mug Punter
                          Rampe has improved every single year he has been on the list, despite a few wobbles this season, the only thing with him is if thinks he has made it he may plateau, he needs to feel he is playing for his spot every game.

                          I think he could also be good off the HBF he has an absolute peach of a left foot
                          Rampe is also really physically strong and hard to tackle, combine that with his sharp turning circle and evasiveness and there's no reason he can't be a real weapon for us in 2016. I just hope the coaches instil enough confidence in him to be able to take the game on, like he used to before he was forced to play on taller opponents.
                          Twitter @cmdil
                          Instagram @conordillon

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                          • RogueSwan
                            McVeigh for Brownlow
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 4602

                            Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
                            ... like he used to before he was forced to play on taller opponents.
                            This
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                            • dimelb
                              pr. dim-melb; m not f
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 6889

                              Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
                              We definitely need more physical intimidation from our midfield...here's hoping Parker and Jones will deliver for that for the best part of the next decade. Heeney seems to have a bit of it in him as well.
                              There is a real need for a bit of hostility at times. We saw what's involved the first time we played hawthorn this season, when it appeared that the boys had been told not to put up with any "unsocial" tactics. The one that struck me (so to speak) was when Jordan Lewis tried it on fairly early in the match and was confronted by two or three aroused opponents. From that point on it was clear that we would not be stood over, and I'm sure it was a factor in the win. It needs to be part of our repertoire.
                              He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                              • RogueSwan
                                McVeigh for Brownlow
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 4602

                                Originally posted by dimelb
                                There is a real need for a bit of hostility at times. We saw what's involved the first time we played hawthorn this season, when it appeared that the boys had been told not to put up with any "unsocial" tactics. The one that struck me (so to speak) was when Jordan Lewis tried it on fairly early in the match and was confronted by two or three aroused opponents. From that point on it was clear that we would not be stood over, and I'm sure it was a factor in the win. It needs to be part of our repertoire.
                                Hopefully Sinclair can bring back a bit of mongrel that has been missing since Mummy departed. I think that is why I was hoping TomD would be given more of a chance, he wasn't afraid to play a bit of bash 'n' crash. Both our premiership teams had a ruck that was happy throwing around a little weight, Jason "Canon" Ball and more so Mummy.
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