2016 trading and drafting (merged thread)

[mcs]

he was very nearly OUR coach

What a bullet we managed to avoid with that.....

[mattybloods]

I would try to ship out as many marginal players as possible to get into this draft. I would have Towers, BJ and Marsh on the trade table as well. I can't see them with big futures with us.

Maybe Freo would take Marsh for their 3rd round pick. That would be enough to get Olango, I think.

Towers and BJ to Brisbane for pick 28 or even better add pick 36 and get back pick 19. That should give us 3 picks inside 20, which should set us up well for the future.

Now with the Mitchell trade I'm liking the idea of trying to gain a few more early draft picks. Can't say we have any gaping holes in our list, better to get the best young players we can get

[robamiee]

dont see how hawks can get both o'meara and mitchell...

wonder if there is any chance we see mitchell to hawks for a pick, o'meara to swans and the hawks pick plus towers to gold coast...

[Nico]

Now with the Mitchell trade I'm liking the idea of trying to gain a few more early draft picks. Can't say we have any gaping holes in our list, better to get the best young players we can get

Ireland did say a few weeks ago we were into drafting this year so on that we will be trading for picks.

[waswan]

Ireland did say a few weeks ago we were into drafting this year so on that we will be trading for picks.

Screw that, we just come out of a trade ban (one we whinged consistently about) and now we are into the Draft ?
We made a GF, debut 7 kids of which 5 look longterm, we don't need the draft, we need quality 23-26yr old like the one who just walked out the door, only faster

[Mug Punter]

Richmond will get pick 26 for Vickery. I'd take that for Nanka.

I would try to ship out as many marginal players as possible to get into this draft. I would have Towers, BJ and Marsh on the trade table as well. I can't see them with big futures with us.

Maybe Freo would take Marsh for their 3rd round pick. That would be enough to get Olango, I think.

Towers and BJ to Brisbane for pick 28 or even better add pick 36 and get back pick 19. That should give us 3 picks inside 20, which should set us up well for the future.


PS: Listening to Terry Wallace on Trade Radio analyzing the Swans. What an idiot. He knows nothing about the Swans. How he ever became a coach is beyond me.

Looks like it's seven outs for us this year.

Three rookie upgrades and whatever we get for Nanka being used to select a ruckman.

Still leaves us three picks. If we want to recruit Jake Brown then he won't cost us more than our third rounder. So I guess that leaves us with Pick 17 and Pick 36 (will end up being later with compo picks) and you'd think we'd get a decent upgrade from the Lions for Towers.

So the question to me is whether we defer until 2017 for the major pick we get from the Hawks or try and upgrade Pick 17 to a top 3/4 pick. Maybe also a swap of their 2017 Pick 2 for our Pick 3 which would get us up to the Top 10 I think Tom is worth

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Screw that, we just come out of a trade ban (one we whinged consistently about) and now we are into the Draft ?
We made a GF, debut 7 kids of which 5 look longterm, we don't need the draft, we need quality 23-26yr old like the one who just walked out the door, only faster

If we couldn't afford Mitchell we certainly couldn't afford to pay a faster version of him. Even if we could make the trade happen.

I personally would like us to use that spare cap space to secure Heeney and Mills' future, we've got more than enough upside from within the squad which is why I like the idea of two first rounders for 2017.

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dont see how hawks can get both o'meara and mitchell...

wonder if there is any chance we see mitchell to hawks for a pick, o'meara to swans and the hawks pick plus towers to gold coast...

Future Picks will get it done

[waswan]

next years draft is all about stockpiling lower picks for Blakey, that's easy done.

We have enough kids and enough guys on the list with experience not getting games. Surely someone on under at hawks will take 400 for 5yrs, like Bruest

[tlock]

FAAAAAAAAAA.... can't believe we lost Mitchell. He's in the prime of his career at only 23 and averages 28 disposals and 12 contested possessions per game, one of the top players in the Swans team during the GF. This is a kick in the guts.

[Ludwig]

next years draft is all about stockpiling lower picks for Blakey, that's easy done.

We have enough kids and enough guys on the list with experience not getting games. Surely someone on under at hawks will take 400 for 5yrs, like Bruest

Blakey is in the 2018 draft.

I think Newman comes into the side next year and perhaps Rose. But we still have Foote, Robbo, COR, Davis and Dawson who will find it hard to break into the side barring injuries. Richards will likely drop out of the side for Reid and Cunningham will be trying to regain his spot, probably to no avail. So we certainly don't need another experienced player blocking their pathway to senior footy.

[Maltopia]

next years draft is all about stockpiling lower picks for Blakey, that's easy done.

You can't stockpile lower picks anymore. If you go into draft with 5 picks but only have 3 spots on your roster, you lose picks 4 and 5 with no compensation. If we use up all our points from the top 3 picks for Blakey, we get ur 2nd and 3rd picks at the end of the draft.

[Levii3]

Just curious if couldn't afford to match the Hawks offer to Mitchell, why did we check if Tom McDonald was available?

[707]

Just curious if couldn't afford to match the Hawks offer to Mitchell, why did we check if Tom McDonald was available?

In the big scheme of things, Mitchell at the Hawks price was seen as expendable given what our player profile and salary cap needs are going forward. There is a looming crush for spots in the midfield so it was either Mitchell at our price or plan B which will unfold in the next week.

I think we are about getting a stronger presence at the pointy end of this years draft given I can see us taking as little as two and no more than three picks this year so make them pointy end picks. Reckon there will be players like Nankervis and/or Towers let go for pointy end pick upgrades. Strengthening next years draft position could also be a priority.

Swapping bundles of later picks to get an upgrade of a pick might be a tactic as well.

On the Mitchell trade, I think we'll push for a quick trade, maybe slight unders of 14 (or 2018 first) & 34 early in the trade period to give us time to do other things, don't want it dragging out. If it stalls with Hawthorn there will no doubt be other Melbourne clubs with better picks and cap space as well throwing their hat into the ring.

[robamiee]

i think we just have to trust our list guys...Kinnear Beatson is one of the best goign around and knows what he is doing...i am sure they have had an idea mitchell was going and planned for it....i still think it maybe a long shot tht we will end up with o'meara even though he has nominated hawks, what we dont know is he may have said hawks but happy with sydney if deal cant be done....

[ernie koala]

I read that the Swans have told Hawthorn that we want draft picks , not players. There goes my Bruest theory.

So then I wonder if that means we want lots of early picks in this draft, to load up with our next wave of mids.....

Or are we eyeing off a big name from another club and need picks to secure him?....hmmmm

[Ludwig]

I read that the Swans have told Hawthorn that we want draft picks , not players. There goes my Bruest theory.

So then I wonder if that means we want lots of early picks in this draft, to load up with our next wave of mids.....

Or are we eyeing off a big name from another club and need picks to secure him?....hmmmm

Besides the usual cream at the top of the draft, this year the draft flattens outs with lots of quality players running well into the 3rd round. I think with the quality of Beatson and Co. we can do very with this draft and would be wise to get as good number of draft picks. If the we can get Hawthorn's 1st and 2nd rounders we could have 2 picks in the teens and 2 in the 30s. We might be able to improve this with trades for Towers and Nanka (or Sinclair).

There are a fair number of players with pace and skills, especially in the top 30, plus some decent KPP prospects later on in the draft if we want.