2016 trading and drafting (merged thread)

[CureTheSane]

Ok for us, taking Harvey would mean we are squeezing one of Hewitt/Papley/Robinson/Jones/Cunningham/Rohan/Rose/Towers out of our forward/midfield area when we want them all to get games and develop further. He would play one more year at most, so why stifle our players? Similar situation with other clubs except those at the very bottom wanting some experience/leadership (and is he a good leader?).

Wasn't suggesting that the Swans take Harvey.
But there are clubs who could surely use his skills, leadership, etc

[Ludwig]

From Trade Wrap: "Sydney Swans ruckman Toby Nankervis is expected to decide this week whether he wants a trade after not being able to cement a senior spot despite good performances in 12 matches with the club.
Richmond appears to be in the box seat as it looks for back-up to Shaun Hampson"

So he goes from a back-up in a grand final side, to a backup in side that's a sack full of spuds?

I think we need to trade out one ruckman. Toby would be my 3rd choice, but considering the other 2 are contracted for next year, we may not have a choice. Richmond don't have a second round pick so far this year but have several players on the trade table that might get them one. Otherwise, I would take their 2017 2nd rounder.

I like this year's draft and wouldn't mind picking up another pick or 2 inside 40. A few of the players I like in the draft have been getting a bit of good publicity unfortunately. I thought Berry or Logue might be available at pick 17, but they both did so well in the combine that it's looking far less likely. I also like Tony Olango, but difficult to say where he might go in the draft.

[dejavoodoo44]

I think we need to trade out one ruckman. Toby would be my 3rd choice, but considering the other 2 are contracted for next year, we may not have a choice. Richmond don't have a second round pick so far this year but have several players on the trade table that might get them one. Otherwise, I would take their 2017 2nd rounder.

I like this year's draft and wouldn't mind picking up another pick or 2 inside 40. A few of the players I like in the draft have been getting a bit of good publicity unfortunately. I thought Berry or Logue might be available at pick 17, but they both did so well in the combine that it's looking far less likely. I also like Tony Olango, but difficult to say where he might go in the draft.

And with Tony Olango, I wonder if any club will now have first rights on him as part of the NT carve up or the multicultural academies? Or whatever they called them.

[Dosser]

I would be happy to make the best of the situation by trading Mitchell to Hawks for pick 14 then trading that and Tippett to Freo for pick 3.

[Beerman]

I find it kind of weird that there was no interest in Harvey.
He was playing well, in the best 22 in a mid range side, and I would have thought worth the risk for a 1 year contract. Even as a depth player.
I know the reasons why clubs won't be interested, and I get that clubs are 'looking to the future' but Johnson is a case in point where a player at the end of his run can play on and be very effective

I get the feeling he was a bit picky and choosy as well. And fair enough - with his career and at his stage in life I can perfectly understand him saying the offer has to be just right to entice him away from retirement.

[Mug Punter]

I think we need to trade out one ruckman. Toby would be my 3rd choice, but considering the other 2 are contracted for next year, we may not have a choice. Richmond don't have a second round pick so far this year but have several players on the trade table that might get them one. Otherwise, I would take their 2017 2nd rounder.

I like this year's draft and wouldn't mind picking up another pick or 2 inside 40. A few of the players I like in the draft have been getting a bit of good publicity unfortunately. I thought Berry or Logue might be available at pick 17, but they both did so well in the combine that it's looking far less likely. I also like Tony Olango, but difficult to say where he might go in the draft.

You'd think Olango would be available with out second rounder (pick 36) or maybe even a better ruck prospect may still be available given the recent history of drafting rucks. If we were to get Richmond's 2017 second rounder for Nankervis then we might be able to on trade that pick to someone for a 2016 pick (Gold Coast or GWS would probably have a surplus of picks this year). With a bit of luck we could upgrade that pick with the towers trade.

Ideally I'd like to see us have two picks in the first 25 plus a late second rounder for our ruckman. We can then keep our third rounder to draft Jake Brown.

So that sees us drafting four and three upgrades. Nanka, Towers, Ben, TomD, Ted and Jack sees six out. I'd think Marsh deserves an upgrade so would we maybe trade picks 17 and (say) 21 for Pick 7 which we could conceivably trade to GWS and only take three picks - A ruck, Brown and an absolute gun.

[Mug Punter]

I would be happy to make the best of the situation by trading Mitchell to Hawks for pick 14 then trading that and Tippett to Freo for pick 3.

I think we all would take that but I doubt Freo would...

Hopefully this time tomorrow we'll know if Tom was telling porkies to Annie or not.

[Industrial Fan]

Erm, he said that he signed a contract already? He fairly clearly has not done that.

[Meg]

Hopefully this time tomorrow we'll know if Tom was telling porkies to Annie or not.

Or Annie was telling porkies to us?

[Bloody Hell]

I would be happy to make the best of the situation by trading Mitchell to Hawks for pick 14 then trading that and Tippett to Freo for pick 3.

So Tippett and Mitchell for Pick #3 is a good deal?!?

[0918330512]

So Tippett and Mitchell for Pick #3 is a good deal?!?

Tippett & Mitchell for pick 1 isn't even a good deal! Whoever you draft, you have no guarantee they are a gun or that they won't "do a Mitchell" and want to go to the Hawks in a few years (if Mitchell does decide to go). Hopefully it'll end up like another RO'K situation

[tlock]

Hope we don't give up Mitchell to the Hawks without demanding a king's ransom. F the Hawks. Every bloody draft year they always poach good players from other clubs without giving up much: Brian Lake, Shaun Burgoyne, David Hale, Jack Gunston, Ben McEvoy, James Frawley and Gibson were all poached from rival clubs to suit specific needs. This year looks like they're getting: Mitchell, Ty Vickery, O'meara. This has to stop. I'd swap Mitchell for Hawks' recruiting manager

[mcs]

Got to love how the Hawks can find $1 million over 2 years to pay Vickery - what are they going to pay Mitchell or O'Meara then

[dejavoodoo44]

Got to love how the Hawks can find $1 million over 2 years to pay Vickery - what are they going to pay Mitchell or O'Meara then

Yes, and it's interesting how the only clearing of list space, so far, is that a rookie lister has retired.

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My preferred scenario for the Swans in this trade period: Towers for a pick upgrade. Done.

[AnnieH]

Or Annie was telling porkies to us?

I don't lie Meg.