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  • Maltopia
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2016
    • 1556

    Originally posted by Belmasta
    Are you talking about bundling them? Coz few people here rate Towers, why would any other club give a mid/late 30s pick for him?
    Speak for yourself! I think there's a lot to like about Towers.[/QUOTE]

    Towers was a pick 14 originally. He is struggling to be in the top 22 of the minor premiers, but would be in the starting 22 for a number of teams. A pick in the mid 30s doesn't seem outrageous.

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    • mcs
      Travelling Swannie!!
      • Jul 2007
      • 8149

      Originally posted by Maltopia
      Speak for yourself! I think there's a lot to like about Towers.
      Towers was a pick 14 originally. He is struggling to be in the top 22 of the minor premiers, but would be in the starting 22 for a number of teams. A pick in the mid 30s doesn't seem outrageous.[/QUOTE]

      He was pick 22 wasn't he?
      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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      • Maltopia
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2016
        • 1556

        Originally posted by mcs
        He was pick 22 wasn't he?
        My mistake - sorry! Jetta was a #14.

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        • goswannies
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2007
          • 3048

          Originally posted by Belmasta
          Speak for yourself! I think there's a lot to like about Towers.
          No disrespect or Dean or you, but I often feel supporters often rate their fringe players more highly than other clubs rate them. Whether we know them better or have rose colored glasses, who knows. That's just the impression I get. & while there might be many things to like about him, he does have his critics for a variety of reasons (you not being one & that's fine; I quite like his pace, his enthusiasm, his opportunistic finishing close to goal).

          Please don't get me wrong, I don't mind Towers, but I'm not sure we'd get a mid-30s pick for him

          Getting Biggs to Dogs only managed to upgrade pick 39 to 37.

          And just because we got him at pick 22, doesn't mean we'd now get pick 22 for him. We wouldn't have got pick 15 for Daniel O'Keefe when we let him go.
          Last edited by goswannies; 18 September 2016, 06:00 PM.

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          • mcs
            Travelling Swannie!!
            • Jul 2007
            • 8149

            Originally posted by Maltopia
            He was pick 22 wasn't he?
            My mistake - sorry! Who did I confuse him with I wonder?[/QUOTE]

            Jetta I think was at 14 was he not?
            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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            • Maltopia
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2016
              • 1556

              Speaking of 14s, that is what the Hawks get now, which they are going to try and use for O'Meara or Mitchell...

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              • dejavoodoo44
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2015
                • 8494

                Originally posted by Maltopia
                Speaking of 14s, that is what the Hawks get now, which they are going to try and use for O'Meara or Mitchell...
                They'll probably have to trade away next year's first round pick as well. Should be top ten.

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                • Belmasta
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 41

                  He was actually pick 22, aged 22, and the date of the draft was the 22nd, which is why he wears 22. If he is traded, I certainly hope he gets more games at the top level than has been afforded him here.

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                  • Mug Punter
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 3325

                    Originally posted by mcs
                    Towers was a pick 14 originally. He is struggling to be in the top 22 of the minor premiers, but would be in the starting 22 for a number of teams. A pick in the mid 30s doesn't seem outrageous.
                    He was pick 22 wasn't he?[/QUOTE]

                    He'd be a decent pick up for a late second rounder for sure, I hope that we get something for him

                    As an aside, I really really want us to re-sign Nankervis after last night

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                    Originally posted by Maltopia
                    Speaking of 14s, that is what the Hawks get now, which they are going to try and use for O'Meara or Mitchell...
                    I'd prefer their future pick as I think the Hawks have good downside for 2017

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6474

                      I think nanko is great for the scg

                      I'd like to see more on the big fields as I do feel that Sinclair shower a lot last year on the bigger ovals
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • Nico
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11329

                        Originally posted by vleung1208
                        It Mitchell has to go I wouldn't mind bringing in Luke Breust (ex-NSW boy) who was told he could be on the trade table. Would be a good addition to the foward line.
                        I would take a straight swap. Would compliment our forward line big time.
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                        • Mug Punter
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 3325

                          Originally posted by Nico
                          I would take a straight swap. Would compliment our forward line big time.
                          I wouldn't think he would be on any less than Mitchell so whilst I think that trade could work on a football level I can't see it happening from a cap space level.

                          Also I think he would be absolutely ideal for the Suns and the Hawks after last Friday simply have to make this trade happen.

                          The 2017 Draft is shaping as a really good one from all reports so it would be good if we had two draft picks at the table. And we have two or three players coming through anyway next year (Foote, Dawson, O'Rioirdan) not to mention getting the likes of Hewett, Aliir and Papley up to 30 senior games asap.

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                          • 707
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6204

                            Mitchell for Bruest won't happen because Bruest is probably on the amount of money that Mitchell is wanting.

                            If Mitchell does want to go to Hawks, I reckon we'll take a bit unders, next years first, which will in all probability be low teens, and a shuffle of picks this year, maybe us giving them out third rounder low 50s because we may not want to use it.

                            Not sure how the Hawks get the O'Meara trade done, would have to be pick 14 and a fairly good player as a minimum but even then GC won't be happy but that's the reality of Hawthorns trade chips. A bit like us with Tippett, pick 22 and Jesse was the absolute best we could do.

                            The more I look at our list and what we need to do, I'm think AJ to the rookie list and Marsh probably hasn't done enough to earn a senior position (Newman is a likely HBF next year) so a second rookie year for him. Papley & Newman upgrade, Ted, Drex and Hiscox gone, Benny to get a one year deal given recent form.

                            So that's four off the senior list, now 34, Newman & Papley on, now 36, two at the draft, 38 again. Need another three rookies. All this assumes we keep our fringe players like Nankers and Towers who will attract interest but maybe not enough trade value to let them go without a tussle.

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                            • Untamed Snark
                              Senior Player
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 1375

                              As much as I like Benny of the last 3 games he's played well against a team that basically wasn't there, terribly against a good team (and yes he wasn't the only one) and well against a good team playing poorly.
                              He wasn't great earlier on in the season
                              I'm not sure he's earned another year.
                              Guess it will depend on what other movements there are within the team.
                              Chillin' with the strange Quarks

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                              • ugg
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                                • Jan 2003
                                • 15962

                                afl.com.au reporting we are interested in Zach Tuohy. Would add the run and carry we have missed since Shaw's retirement and Malceski's departure
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