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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    Unfortunetly I forgot about the screening last night, but luckily I see it is on tenplay.com.au. Will watch it over the weekend.

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    • ScottH
      It's Goodes to cheer!!
      • Sep 2003
      • 23665

      Simpletons messge: "Shut up and just play football."

      So many good and bad memories in the doco.

      Too many knuckleheads out there who will not care, and still call him a sook.
      They only hear what they want to hear.

      Saddens me still, as I know it does for most of us, that we never got to see him finish his career as he should have:

      A CHAMPION player
      A CHAMPION bloke
      A CHAMPION aboriginal

      #westandwithadam but will never truely understand the hurt and hardship he went through.

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      • dimelb
        pr. dim-melb; m not f
        • Jun 2003
        • 6889

        Brandon Jack looks to the possibilities opened up by the documentary:

        He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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        • Bloods05
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2008
          • 1641

          Originally posted by ScottH
          Simpletons messge: "Shut up and just play football."

          So many good and bad memories in the doco.

          Too many knuckleheads out there who will not care, and still call him a sook.
          They only hear what they want to hear.

          Saddens me still, as I know it does for most of us, that we never got to see him finish his career as he should have:

          A CHAMPION player
          A CHAMPION bloke
          A CHAMPION aboriginal

          #westandwithadam but will never truely understand the hurt and hardship he went through.
          I was very pleasantly surprised to hear Mark Robinson explain to Gerard Whateley that he knew the psychology of knuckleheads more intimately than Whateley did, and that it was those knuckleheads who did the booing. I thought it was a point well made, and it raised Robbo several notches in my estimation.

          But my God. Sam Newman. Over the years he has gone from being a run-of-the-mill private-school child of privilege with delusions about his intellectual prowess and comic talents to a sour, vicious old man who can't erase the sneer from his face despite God knows how many bouts of plastic surgery. He is more a tragic figure than anything.

          And what a gutless weasel Alan Jones is, not even allowing his voice to be used.

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          • joemoore12
            Warming the Bench
            • Apr 2012
            • 284

            Adam Goodes: Our Graceful Swan

            Passionate Swans fans and Footy Almanac contributor Joe Moore has penned this special From the Outer piece on the back of 'The Final Quarter' being aired last night on Channel 10.


            My thoughts on our courageous hero and the Final Quarter, for the club website.

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            • ScottH
              It's Goodes to cheer!!
              • Sep 2003
              • 23665

              Originally posted by Bloods05
              I was very pleasantly surprised to hear Mark Robinson explain to Gerard Whateley that he knew the psychology of knuckleheads more intimately than Whateley did, and that it was those knuckleheads who did the booing. I thought it was a point well made, and it raised Robbo several notches in my estimation.
              I've never really liked Robbo, but last night he was one of the few to make some passioned points for Goodes.

              As yes knuckleheads sums many of them up perfectly!!

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              • 111431
                Regular in the Side
                • Sep 2010
                • 698

                Originally posted by dimelb
                Brandon Jack looks to the possibilities opened up by the documentary:

                https://www.theage.com.au/national/w...19-p528py.html
                Brandon is a thoughtful man and excellent writer - nailed it

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                • Bloods05
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 1641

                  Originally posted by joemoore12
                  http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2...-graceful-swan

                  My thoughts on our courageous hero and the Final Quarter, for the club website.
                  Very well said Joe. Just one comment though: you say, quite rightly, that Adam's exemplary human qualities are obvious for all to see....and yet, there are those who can't, or won't, see them, and we saw or heard from quite a few of them last night. What is so galling is how prominent and influential those morally blind people are. One thing the film makes clear is just how big a role was played by them, mostly but not exclusively in the Murdoch media. Without them it would have blown over quite quickly.

                  I have deliberately stayed away from social media today to avoid the hordes of knuckleheads, as Robbo called them, that are undoubtedly also out there peddling their ignorant bile.

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                  • snajik
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1115

                    Many on here have attributed the lopsided free kick count in the 2016 GF as the reason why we lost. I’ve always seen this as one of four contributing factors. Aliir Aliir, who had been in spectacular form in the second half of that season, injuring his knee in the PF was another. A possibly underdone McVeigh and Mills being brought back for the GF was a third, but for me, the premature retirement of proven big game player Adam Goodes, courtesy of the ovine bogan hordes was the principal reason we lost to Footscray that day.
                    It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
                    The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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                    • Swanny40519
                      Regular in the side.
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 469

                      I recorded the documentary and watched it this afternoon.

                      It was gut wrenching to see close up what Adam was going through in those terrible 3 years. The hatred and racist vitriol spewed out by Jones, Newman, Bolt and Devine was unbelievable and brought back horrible memories of going to the SCG games and watching on TV.

                      I wish that one day in the not too distant future, that Adam will be welcomed back into the AFL community and take his rightful place as a champion player and a champion individual. We can only hope that will happen.

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                      • Meg
                        Go Swannies!
                        Site Admin
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 4828

                        The Final Quarter / The Australian Dream (AG documentaries) and related discussion

                        Three moments in the film which made me particularly emotional:

                        1. Lisa Sansbury, Adam’s mother, wiping away tears of pride as Adam was named Australian of the Year - not knowing what was to come.

                        2. The footage of the wonderful support and love for Adam from Swans fans at the SCG for the match against the Crows. (I was overseas and while I very closely followed what was happening, I hadn’t seen that footage before. Well done you lot.)

                        3. Adam walking off at the end of his last match against the Roos in the 2015 semi-final at ANZ. At that stage the players did not know if Goodes would retire, although everyone knew it was likely. I read recently that Macca asked Adam at the end of the match if that was the end - if so the players wanted to chair him off. You can see Ted and Reg walking by his side ready to lift him if he said yes. Instead Adam brushed them off - he did not want to give those despicable North Melbourne supporters one last chance to boo him. Heartbreaking.

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                        • Mel_C
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 4470

                          I watched the documentary today and I came away feeling sad, angry and proud. Sad that Adam had to go through this. Angry at the people that put him through this. Proud of the club that I support and proud that a champion like Goodes played for my club.

                          Adam was so calm and was well spoken after all of the incidents. I don't know if I would have been able to control myself like he did if I was in his shoes.

                          I loved how the documentary was able to make Newman, Bolt and Jones look like fools by showing actual facts that contradicted their continuous use of the 13 year old girl line and the false claims that Goodes was being divisive.

                          I hadn't watched the footy show in years and I shouldn't have been surprised by Newman's comments but I couldn't believe what was coming out of his mouth. How could he possibly find something negative about the Swans and Geelong players running through the same banner?? Hearing the crowd cheering him on after each comment was sad. Although I was hearted hearing that one person yell out that he was a racist.

                          I was surprised that Buckley said that the booing should be ignored and I was even more surprised how Robinson stood up to him. Buckley certainly changed his tune this year when he called out the booing of Pendlebury.

                          I hope that the Australian public that watched the documentary now appreciate what Goodes had to go through and don't just see him as a sook. When my mum saw the footage of the booing at the games she was shocked.
                          Last edited by liz; 19 July 2019, 10:02 PM. Reason: Removed off topic comment

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                          • mcs
                            Travelling Swannie!!
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 8166

                            Originally posted by Meg
                            3. Adam walking off at the end of his last match against the Roos in the 2015 semi-final at ANZ. At that stage the players did not know if Goodes would retire, although everyone knew it was likely. I read recently that Macca asked Adam at the end of the match if that was the end - if so the players wanted to chair him off. You can see Ted and Reg walking by his side ready to lift him if he said yes. Instead Adam brushed them off - he did not want to give those despicable North Melbourne supporters one last chance to boo him. Heartbreaking.
                            It was such a sad way for such a wonderful player to go out A wrong that can never really be 'righted', no matter what steps might be taken to try and address it.

                            It was a wonderful night that night at the SCG when the Swans family stood up for Goodesy. A bright light in an otherwise very dark period.
                            Last edited by liz; 19 July 2019, 10:03 PM. Reason: Removed off topic comment
                            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                            • mcsean
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 40

                              @@@@ that hurt! A brilliant format that allows no real wriggle room for those awful boors. He’s such an amazing man

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                              • AB Swannie
                                Senior Player
                                • Mar 2017
                                • 1579

                                Originally posted by Mel_C
                                I was surprised that Buckley said that the booing should be ignored and I was even more surprised how Robinson stood up to him. Buckley certainly changed his tune this year when he called out the booing of Pendlebury.
                                The one thing I will say about Buckley is that he seemed to want to talk about Adam Goodes as the great player that he was and not the booing. I think he said something like "let's not make this his story - he is much more than this." I agree with that in some way. So many people forget how damn good he was as a player.

                                P.S. I so wish Jetts didn't get home sick and was a lifetime Swans player.

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