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  • Faunac8
    Senior Player
    • Mar 2014
    • 1548

    Originally posted by Meg
    And this is the thing that has been ignored/forgotten/disregarded by those who continue to criticise Adam Goodes for his reaction to the racist abuse in that awful incident in 2013.

    The 2013 indigenous round marked the 20th anniversary of the Winmar incident and that iconic pose.

    Goodes was used by the AFL to lead media promotions by indigenous players before the 2013 indigenous round, including by replicating the Winmar pose (see below).

    For example this article before the 2013 indigenous round:

    ‘The theme for 2013 – Identity – was inspired by Nicky Winmar’s iconic gesture at Victoria Park in 1993 when, at the conclusion of St Kilda’s match against Collingwood, he raised his jumper and pointed at his skin and declared: “I’m black – and I’m proud to be black!”

    The 2013 Indigenous Round will celebrate this moment and remind football fans of its significance in the history of our game, and the identity it gives each and every Indigenous player in the AFL.

    “The instant reaction is that it reminds me of the times I’ve had to stand up for myself when I’ve been racially abused on the football field, at school, by my own relatives,” Goodes said.’

    Indigenous Round: Adam Goodes - AFL NSW / ACT


    And then in the Collingwood 2013 indigenous round match he hears, out of the crowd, one of the worst pieces of racist abuse imaginable. He is called an ape - an animal, not human, the ‘other’ - the explanation used for centuries to justify invasion of indigenous communities, taking their land, murder, rape, exploitation.

    And he is criticised for reacting???

    This 2014 article by Anthony Sharwood, in the lead-up to Goodes’ 350th match, sums it up:

    ‘Off field, he’s an inspirational role model, not least in his hands-on role as director of the Go Foundation, which provides scholarships for young indigenous people.’

    ‘On field, there’s no one quite like the man who tonight notches up an incredible 350th AFL game, and there never really has been.‘

    ‘So here’s this ripper bloke. This inspirational indigenous Australian. This beautiful, silky footballer who’s a dream to watch. And yet plenty of people don’t like him. Go figure that.’

    ‘To this writer, it always seemed like Goodes, consciously or subconsciously, was emulating the famous Nicky Winmar gesture in that (2013 indigenous round) moment. Only, instead of pointing to his own chest in pride, Goodes pointed to the section of the crowd from which the insult had emanated. And he did this not to shame anybody personally, but to shame the very mentality of those who would call a black man an ape, and by inference, subhuman.’

    Category: | Herald Sun

    Great post I must admit I wasn’t aware of this picture of Adam and had forgotten the significance of the indigenous round that year. I excuse myself on the grounds that I very rarely read Ruperts rags.

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    • Ruck'n'Roll
      Ego alta, ergo ictus
      • Nov 2003
      • 3990

      Originally posted by KTigers
      Mrs Tigers made a great suggestion last night. Next year all the clubs can wear their indigenous jumpers for the entire season.
      Now that would be a statement.
      It would indeed
      Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 21 June 2019, 10:04 AM.

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      • Sandridge
        Outer wing, Lake Oval
        • Apr 2010
        • 2076

        We often poke fun at Damian Barrett's "Sliding Doors" segments but this week's take on Hawthorn is nice.

        Sliding Doors: IF Paddy Ryder is at Port in 2020 ... THEN - AFL.com.au

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        • dimelb
          pr. dim-melb; m not f
          • Jun 2003
          • 6889

          Outstanding post Meg, especially the Sharwood piece, which I hadn't seen before.

          Pardon a bit of trivia: Those muscles - whoa!

          - - - Updated - - -

          Originally posted by Sandridge
          We often poke fun at Damian Barrett's "Sliding Doors" segments but this week's take on Hawthorn is nice.

          Sliding Doors: IF Paddy Ryder is at Port in 2020 ... THEN - AFL.com.au
          Good on Damian for this time!
          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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          • ugg
            Can you feel it?
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 15970

            The Final Quarter to be screened 18th July 7:30pm on Channel 10

            The Final Quarter Film on Twitter: "We’re excited to announce a broadcast date for #TheFinalQuarter.

            Make sure you tune in to @Channel10AU and @WIN_TV on Thursday July 18 at 7.30pm.… https://t.co/Yr0E7Zu45T"
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            • Sandridge
              Outer wing, Lake Oval
              • Apr 2010
              • 2076

              This is magnificent.

              How Adam Goodes' battle whoop became the core of a whirlwind - AFL.com.au

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              • dejavoodoo44
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2015
                • 8620

                Originally posted by Sandridge
                Nice writing. I must buy the book.

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                • Blood Fever
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4048

                  Originally posted by Sandridge
                  Best bit of writing on this affair by some distance.

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                  • Bloods05
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1641

                    Originally posted by Sandridge
                    So many, many quotable lines. But this stands out: "Once it became clear that Jason Akermanis, Andrew Bolt, Miranda Devine, Alan Jones and Sam Newman were all on one side of an argument, that really should have been an end to it." And might I add, to give a more contemporary touch, Tom Elliott.

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                    • AnnieH
                      RWOs Black Sheep
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 11332

                      Originally posted by Sandridge
                      Brilliant.
                      Thanks for sharing.
                      xxxx
                      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                      • Mel
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 883

                        Well written.

                        I'm surprised by how angry, disappointed and emotional I still get when I read about (or watch clips of) that time. Then I think, If I'm this angry and upset as an anglo woman, with no personal connection to indigenous culture, I can't begin to imagine how upset and furious Adam would have been and has every right to still feel, along wtih the indigenous community in general. That whole time frame really does hold a mirror up to the general population of Australia and jesus, it's not a pretty reflection.
                        Life's not a spectator sport

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                        • Sandrevan
                          Warming the Bench
                          • May 2016
                          • 355

                          I read that article too. It was quite unlike the articles we normally read on the afl site in that it was written in a very complicated way. It could have dealt with the issues in a more concise and direct way. I read to the end but I doubt the run-of-the-mill afl fan would.

                          Is this the AFL starting to raise awareness of The Final Quarter being on TV on 18 July?

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                          • dimelb
                            pr. dim-melb; m not f
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 6889

                            Originally posted by Bloods05
                            So many, many quotable lines. But this stands out: "Once it became clear that Jason Akermanis, Andrew Bolt, Miranda Devine, Alan Jones and Sam Newman were all on one side of an argument, that really should have been an end to it." And might I add, to give a more contemporary touch, Tom Elliott.
                            An outstanding piece - thanks Sandridge - and I particularly liked your picking up the list of drongoes Bloods05. A pox on their houses.
                            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                            • snajik
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1115

                              that mystifying echelon of white people who presume to instruct black people in what does and does not constitute racism the line that stood out for me.

                              I've read one of his other books, 'It's Too Late To Die Young Now' about his rock journalism experiences. He has written for a number of music magazines for a few decades. I wasn't aware of his AFL / VFL interest.
                              It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
                              The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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                              • liz
                                Veteran
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16770

                                Originally posted by Sandrevan
                                I read that article too. It was quite unlike the articles we normally read on the afl site in that it was written in a very complicated way. It could have dealt with the issues in a more concise and direct way. I read to the end but I doubt the run-of-the-mill afl fan would.
                                The note at the end identifies that it's an extract from a book, rather than a piece written for (online) mainstream media. So it's a different genre, and it does read a bit differently. You may be right that many people (including those who would benefit most from reading about it) won't make it to the end, but there have been many more concise accounts of the same events for those who want things short and simple.

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