The Final Quarter / The Australian Dream (AG documentaries) and related discussion

[liz]

Please stick to talking about the Goodes incident and other footy related matters in this thread. If you wish to comment on events in US politics, please go over to Open Chat to do so.

[stevoswan]

For some reason it won’t link properly but it’s a great summary that succinctly refutes the “ facts “ of the agenda that attempted to justify the booing as not a a “ Racist thing” copy and paste in your browser

https://10daily.com.au/views/a190712...ieved-20190717

Great article....

This is interesting as well......some encouraging reactions to the doco.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-19/anger-shame-your-reactions-to-the-final-quarter-documentary-about-adam-goodes

[Aprilbr]

I watched the Goodes Aust Day speech for the first time today. He certainly sent us a very worthwhile message about rascism. Very powerfully delivered.

Personally, given the occasion, I would have liked to have seen him perhaps start off with a few positives about the many good aspects of our our great country rather than go straight for the jugular on this important issue. Having said that, I can see that he had limited time to deliver this important message.

I admire his stance so much and will always see him as a great Australian and legend of our Club.

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[KSAS]

Sam Newman still thinks Goodes had incited supporters to boo him and that he couldn't take it. Reckons the whole episode has been hijacked into about being race. Unbelievable! Don't think he watched the documentary, despite giving the impression that he has.

Adam Goodes documentary: The Final Quarter, Sam Newman hits back

[Velour&Ruffles]

Sam Newman still thinks Goodes had incited supporters to boo him and that he couldn't take it. Reckons the whole episode has been hijacked into about being race. Unbelievable! Don't think he watched the documentary, despite giving the impression that he has.

Adam Goodes documentary: The Final Quarter, Sam Newman hits back

It's a longstanding tradition. John Milton called it in 1642:

"But now, with a most inhuman cruelty, they who have put out the people’s eyes, reproach them of their blindness" - Manufacturing Consent

[Sandridge]

Sam Newman still thinks Goodes had incited supporters to boo him and that he couldn't take it. Reckons the whole episode has been hijacked into about being race. Unbelievable! Don't think he watched the documentary, despite giving the impression that he has.

Adam Goodes documentary: The Final Quarter, Sam Newman hits back

Newman gave himself away when he said that he was waiting for the AFL to have a special celebration round for "white, Protestant, heterosexual males."
He's a narcissist - it's all about him and people who look and think like him. As a "white, Protestant, heterosexual male," he's been privileged all of his life. He doesn't like it when people who are different to him appear to be getting special attention and feels threatened by it. "The Final Quarter" showed him up as the insignificant and irrelevant little man that he is.

[MattW]

Sam Newman still thinks Goodes had incited supporters to boo him and that he couldn't take it. Reckons the whole episode has been hijacked into about being race. Unbelievable! Don't think he watched the documentary, despite giving the impression that he has.

Adam Goodes documentary: The Final Quarter, Sam Newman hits back

I'm not sure how anyone who watched that documentary could countenance anything Newman says.

[Hotpotato]

I was at a Men’s shed dinner last night
and A. Goodes came up .
A bloke not really into AFL said his son attended an AFL clinic at his school when Adam and another Swans player appeared and started drills with the boys .
The Dad was there and was struck by Adams wonderful demeanour and humility with the boys .
You hear these sort of stories all the time.
Adam and Mickey O addressed a conference my sister attended and was so impressed by by these two amazing leaders .

I hope Adam will now do the Grand Final Parade (with his new baby).
It will be OK.

[giant]

I recorded the documentary and watched it this afternoon.

It was gut wrenching to see close up what Adam was going through in those terrible 3 years. The hatred and racist vitriol spewed out by Jones, Newman, Bolt and Devine was unbelievable and brought back horrible memories of going to the SCG games and watching on TV.

I wish that one day in the not too distant future, that Adam will be welcomed back into the AFL community and take his rightful place as a champion player and a champion individual. We can only hope that will happen.

"Gut wrenching" are the right words - I saw this in the cinema and the effect of the booing was physical, oppressive, almost like I struggled to breathe. If I felt that way in a cinema many years after the event, one can only imagine what the impact on Adam must have been.

I've always loved footy since I started watching my beloved Claremont Tigers in the '70s - for half a season there, I hated it and couldn't bear anything to do with it. I do so hope this is the start of something different.

[KTigers]

Newman gave himself away when he said that he was waiting for the AFL to have a special celebration round for "white, Protestant, heterosexual males."
He's a narcissist - it's all about him and people who look and think like him. As a "white, Protestant, heterosexual male," he's been privileged all of his life. He doesn't like it when people who are different to him appear to be getting special attention and feels threatened by it. "The Final Quarter" showed him up as the insignificant and irrelevant little man that he is.

Don't the AFL already have twenty two of these rounds every year? Poor old Sam is being re-affirmed every week and he
hasn't even noticed.

[Postie]

Article in Fitz Files SMH this morning provides more insight into the disgraceful comments from Alan Jones during the saga which were highlighted in the documentary. Interestingly one of Jones comments was that their was no racism when he was coaching wallabies - Very quickly disputed by one of the Ella brothers. Basically Peter Fitzsimons is suggesting Alan Jones should be sacked from SCG Trust. I couldn't agree more - let's start an RWO petition - Get Alan OUT.

[stevoswan]

Article in Fitz Files SMH this morning provides more insight into the disgraceful comments from Alan Jones during the saga which were highlighted in the documentary. Interestingly one of Jones comments was that their was no racism when he was coaching wallabies - Very quickly disputed by one of the Ella brothers. Basically Peter Fitzsimons is suggesting Alan Jones should be sacked from SCG Trust. I couldn't agree more - let's start an RWO petition - Get Alan OUT.

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[Kumarangk]

I'm not sure how anyone who watched that documentary could countenance anything Newman says.

I have never understood the Sam newman/footy show thing.I'm not Victorian and not brought up with AFL as my passion but love my Swans but i can't understand how this guy got a media job. He cant string his words together and when challenged on his viewpoint ( on general AFL issues ) he goes the arrogant line. Melbourne appear to judge him on his performances on the field and robot like think his post career media views have credibility . Very strange

[Melbourne_Blood]

I have never understood the Sam newman/footy show thing.I'm not Victorian and not brought up with AFL as my passion but love my Swans but i can't understand how this guy got a media job. He cant string his words together and when challenged on his viewpoint ( on general AFL issues ) he goes the arrogant line. Melbourne appear to judge him on his performances on the field and robot like think his post career media views have credibility . Very strange

Likewise with Sydney and Alan Jones


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[Meg]

Likewise with Sydney and Alan Jones


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I don’t understand the Sydney and Alan Jones thing either - and I live in Sydney ...