The Final Quarter / The Australian Dream (AG documentaries) and related discussion

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  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8626

    Originally posted by snajik
    that mystifying echelon of white people who presume to instruct black people in what does and does not constitute racism the line that stood out for me.

    I've read one of his other books, 'It's Too Late To Die Young Now' about his rock journalism experiences. He has written for a number of music magazines for a few decades. I wasn't aware of his AFL / VFL interest.
    I must buy that one too, as I love the title.

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    • Mel_C
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 4470

      Originally posted by Mel
      Well written.

      I'm surprised by how angry, disappointed and emotional I still get when I read about (or watch clips of) that time. Then I think, If I'm this angry and upset as an anglo woman, with no personal connection to indigenous culture, I can't begin to imagine how upset and furious Adam would have been and has every right to still feel, along wtih the indigenous community in general. That whole time frame really does hold a mirror up to the general population of Australia and jesus, it's not a pretty reflection.
      I feel the same. The other day I saw an ad for the Goodes documentary and I had tears in my eyes, especially hearing what that dickhead Sam Newman said. I'm going to be a blubbering mess when I watch the whole documentary!

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      • bloodspirit
        Clubman
        • Apr 2015
        • 4448

        Originally posted by Sandridge
        Yes, that was the best of a few recent articles.
        All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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        • erica
          Happy and I know it
          • Jan 2008
          • 1247

          Another perspective. Worth reading.

          What Adam Goodes taught me about the Australia I was growing up in | NITV
          All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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          • Sandridge
            Outer wing, Lake Oval
            • Apr 2010
            • 2076

            Originally posted by erica
            Fantastic! Thanks for posting, erica!

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            • Bloods05
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2008
              • 1641

              Originally posted by erica
              Magnificent. Such a contrast between the depth of humanity on display here and the shrivelled petty-mindedness of Adam's critics.

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              • dimelb
                pr. dim-melb; m not f
                • Jun 2003
                • 6889

                Originally posted by erica
                Thanks Erica. A simple and direct story, told with pain, passion and pride.

                And congratulations to Marlee for how she has taken up flag for her people.
                He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16770

                  This thread ("The Final Quarter / The Australian Dream (AG documentaries and related discussion") has been created from various parts of the "Adam Goodes - Swans Legend thread", and the thread that was once residing in Open Chat as a place to continue discussion about The Final Quarter (which many people will have an opportunity to see for the first time this evening on C10). This frees up the "Adam Goodes - Swans Legend" thread to track what he's doing post retirement, without everything getting lost amongst the discussion on the films and, more broadly, the circumstances around how he departed from the game.

                  The less constructive posts from the discussions have been weeded out and are no longer accessible.

                  This is a Swans forum for Swans fans. The overwhelming majority of posters on this forum are sympathetic towards Goodes and the stand he took. If you choose to post an alternative point of view, bear this in mind. Keep your posts civil, constructive and on topic. If you respond to someone who has posted a point of view that you don't agree with, keep your response civil, constructive and on topic. If you read a post you don't agree with, think about whether responding at all is the most appropriate response. Very often the most effective response is no response. No-one will assume you condone someone else's opinion just because you don't respond.

                  Posts (and responses) that don't adhere to these standards will be deleted - in full, even if only a small part fails to meet the standards.

                  If you see the deletion of posts that don't adhere to the above as censorship, so be it. Participation in RWO does not provide you the absolute right to free speech. RWO posting rules take precedence over your right to express any opinion in any form. This includes not accusing other RWO posters of being racist. Those exchanges go nowhere and don't adhere to forum posting rules.

                  The above applies to discussions on any topic, but is particularly pertinent to this topic because it is one that evokes strong opinions and reactions from many of us, and a large number of recent posts on the topic have failed to adhere to these standards. These posting standards are not up for discussion, not within this thread anyway. Any comments debating them will be deleted as "off topic". If you have any concerns, communicate them via PM to Danzar, Meg and/or me.

                  As a reminder The Final Quarter screens tonight on C10 at 7.30pm. The second film referred to in this thread title (The Australian Dream) is due to open the Melbourne Film Festival next month and then, as I understand, to be released in cinemas nationally later in the year.
                  Last edited by liz; 18 July 2019, 05:28 PM. Reason: Corrected name of second film, plus grammatical edits

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                  • Hotpotato
                    Senior Player
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 2271

                    Thanks Liz , all very reassuring .

                    I urge everyone to text yr fam/friends (who’ve
                    probably never heard of RWO anyway) to watch it as only very few of us have seen it so far.

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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      Originally posted by liz
                      This thread ("The Final Quarter / An Australian Dream (AG documentaries and related discussion") has been created from various parts of the "Adam Goodes - Swans Legend thread", and the thread that was once residing in Open Chat as a place to continue discussion about The Final Quarter (which many people will have an opportunity to see for the first time this evening on C10). This frees up the "Adam Goodes - Swans Legend thread" ( Adam Goodes - Swans Legend) to track what he's doing post retirement, without everything getting lost amongst the discussion on the films and, more broadly, the circumstances around how he departed from the game.

                      The less constructive posts from the discussions have been weeded out and are no longer accessible.

                      This is a Swans forum for Swans fans. The overwhelming majority of posters on this forum are sympathetic towards Goodes and the stand he took. If you choose to post an alternative point of view, bear this in mind. Keep your posts civil, constructive and on topic. If you respond to someone who has posted a point of view that you don't agree with, keep your response civil, constructive and on topic. If you read a post you don't agree with, think about whether not responding at all is the most appropriate response. Very often it is the most effective response. No-one will assume you condone someone else's opinion just because you haven't responded.

                      Posts (and responses) that don't adhere to these standards will be deleted - in full, even if only a small part fails to meet the standards.

                      If you see the deletion of posts that don't adhere to the above as censorship, so be it. Participation in RWO does not provide you the absolute right to free speech. RWO posting rules take precedence over your right to express any opinion in any form. This includes not accusing other RWO posters of being racist. Those exchanges go nowhere and don't adhere to forum posting rules.

                      The above applies to discussions on any topic, but is particularly pertinent to this topic because it is one that evokes strong opinions and reactions from many of us, and a large number of recent posts on the topic have failed to adhere to these standards. These posting standards are not up for discussion, not within this thread anyway. Any comments debating them will be deleted as "off topic". If you have any concerns, communicate them via PM to me, Meg, Danzar.

                      As a reminder The Final Quarter screens tonight on C10 at 7.30pm. The second film referred to in this thread title (An Australian Dream) is due to open the Melbourne Film Festival next month and then, as I understand, to be released in cinemas nationally later in the year.
                      The Australian Dream is releasing August 22. Put it in your dairies.

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                      • Meg
                        Go Swannies!
                        Site Admin
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 4828

                        The Final Quarter / An Australian Dream (AG documentaries) and related discussion

                        For information, The Project is doing a special program on ‘The Final Quarter’ tonight, immediately after the film on Channel 10.

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                        • goswannies
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 3049

                          My apologies, I can’t remember who the RWO member was, but one of our benevolent members screen printed & distributed a bunch of red t-shirts with a white #37 for wearing at a game during this turbulent period in support of Adam.

                          I would just like to thank them for their kindness and generosity in supporting Adam.

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                          • erica
                            Happy and I know it
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 1247

                            I'm recording the show tonight so I can watch it later. I don't think I'm ready to re-live the events yet. I hope it's watched by a wide audience, not just Adam's supporters.
                            All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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                            • Mel_C
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 4470

                              I'll be recording it so I can watch it without the ads. I'm apprehensive about watching it. I'm not looking forward to hearing Newman, Jones, Bolt etc.

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                              • Mel_C
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 4470

                                Originally posted by goswannies
                                My apologies, I can’t remember who the RWO member was, but one of our benevolent members screen printed & distributed a bunch of red t-shirts with a white #37 for wearing at a game during this turbulent period in support of Adam.

                                I would just like to thank them for their kindness and generosity in supporting Adam.
                                I think it was KTigers?

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