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  • YvonneH
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2011
    • 1141

    Originally posted by 707
    I see Essendon & Melbourne have finally got a trade come in. Stringer is the interesting one, Dogs vs Dodoro, we watch with interest now Essendon have traded out pick 11 that Dogs wanted. Bit like Hawks who traded out 14 last year and in the process annoyed the Suns who saw it as part of the O'Meara deal.
    But the O'Meara deal still went through.

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    • Dosser
      Just wild about Harry
      • Mar 2011
      • 1833

      Originally posted by 707
      Both have shown to be good role players, or good ordinary players as some like to say, who left for more playing opportunity. Aliir & Dawson are the obvious players still in the NEAFL that probably should be at senior level.

      Hard to know if our recruiters are having a lazy 10 days or are actually planning a raid. In the fullness of time .....

      I see Essendon & Melbourne have finally got a trade come in. Stringer is the interesting one, Dogs vs Dodoro, we watch with interest now Essendon have traded out pick 11 that Dogs wanted. Bit like Hawks who traded out 14 last year and in the process annoyed the Suns who saw it as part of the O'Meara deal.
      It is sounding to me like most clubs are dropping off Stringer, so Essendon may get him very cheaply. The only problem may be that the cost to the club is even more than the price, with Stringer.

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        Originally posted by Nico
        I didn't class Membrey as a good player for us. He has shown at the Saints that he can kick goals against lesser sides, but against better sides he might as well been drinking beers with the fans in the outer.
        Who would rather have in our forward line in the finals, Rohan or Membrey?

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        • barracuda
          Regular in the Side
          • Jun 2016
          • 551

          I'm not sure if this is the right place to comment but I am hearing that Edwards and Jack are off to Sydney Uni NEAFL. I am also hearing that X Richards may not be at Sydney Uni (no dickheads policy)

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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            Originally posted by YvonneH
            But the O'Meara deal still went through.
            Went through in the last 30 mins and at a higher price than Hawks wanted, no picks last year or this year. Saints made off like bandits "helping" the Hawks! Wait & see how it turns out :-)

            - - - Updated - - -

            Originally posted by barracuda
            I'm not sure if this is the right place to comment but I am hearing that Edwards and Jack are off to Sydney Uni NEAFL. I am also hearing that X Richards may not be at Sydney Uni (no dickheads policy)
            The more strong sides in the NEAFL the better so happy that our cast offs are bolstering a rival.

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            • Billericay
              Regular in the Side
              • May 2013
              • 712

              In order for Jack Watts to come to the Swans (if that's even likely), as I understand it, we'd need to offload Tippo. What do people think is the best outcome:

              (a) things stay as they are and hope a preseason can bring back good Tippo
              (b) trade out Tippo and replace him (in salary cap terms) with Watts
              (c) trade out Tippo and have money for next year / another target

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              • The Big Cat
                On the veteran's list
                • Apr 2006
                • 2350

                Originally posted by Ludwig
                Who would rather have in our forward line in the finals, Rohan or Membrey?
                Rohan any day of the week!
                Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                • AnnieH
                  RWOs Black Sheep
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 11332

                  Originally posted by Billericay
                  In order for Jack Watts to come to the Swans (if that's even likely), as I understand it, we'd need to offload Tippo. What do people think is the best outcome:

                  (a) things stay as they are and hope a preseason can bring back good Tippo
                  (b) trade out Tippo and replace him (in salary cap terms) with Watts
                  (c) trade out Tippo and have money for next year / another target
                  But Tipoff isn't being traded out.
                  Required, contracted player.
                  Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                  Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                  • RogueSwan
                    McVeigh for Brownlow
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 4602

                    Originally posted by AnnieH
                    But Tipoff isn't being traded out.
                    Required, contracted player.
                    and Buddy was going to the Giants
                    "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      Originally posted by Billericay
                      In order for Jack Watts to come to the Swans (if that's even likely), as I understand it, we'd need to offload Tippo. What do people think is the best outcome:

                      (a) things stay as they are and hope a preseason can bring back good Tippo
                      (b) trade out Tippo and replace him (in salary cap terms) with Watts
                      (c) trade out Tippo and have money for next year / another target
                      As things stand now we have 4 players, Tippett, Naismith, Sinclair and Cameron, fighting for one senior spot, taking up around 10% of our salary cap. Without specifying who will do what, they will typically take on the following roles next year:

                      1. Senior side ruckman
                      2. Reserves side ruckman
                      3. Travelling emergency
                      4. Injury list


                      What I had in mind was to try to trade Tippett at a giveaway price and use the money for the future. If that doesn't work, delist him and see if anyone will take him as a DFA. If that doesn't work, wait to see if at our 3rd round pick there is someone worth giving a 2 year contract to. If there is, then use that pick on that player, then redraft Tippett as a rookie. If not, redraft Tippett with our 3rd round pick.
                      Last edited by Ludwig; 12 October 2017, 04:18 PM.

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                      • Cosmic Wizard
                        recruit me pretty please!
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 620

                        Originally posted by Billericay
                        In order for Jack Watts to come to the Swans (if that's even likely), as I understand it, we'd need to offload Tippo. What do people think is the best outcome:

                        (a) things stay as they are and hope a preseason can bring back good Tippo
                        (b) trade out Tippo and replace him (in salary cap terms) with Watts
                        (c) trade out Tippo and have money for next year / another target
                        Or several clubs need more picks, like Essendon, so do we swap our pick 31 for a player???

                        Would you like Watts if we gave away pick 31, i hear 27 was meant to be acceptable from some club for him???

                        Or my total dream trade, Connor McKenna for pick 31??? Don't thinks that will happen.

                        But keep pick 14 and trade the 31, use the other picks for rookie upgrades.

                        Watts has problems but who else will you get at pick 31 who can play at AFL standard.

                        PS my love child Mitch MacCarthy has been delisted by Collingwood.

                        Surely worth a rookie spot?????
                        doof-doof

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                        • troyjones2525
                          Swans Fanatic!
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 2908

                          Originally posted by Billericay
                          In order for Jack Watts to come to the Swans (if that's even likely), as I understand it, we'd need to offload Tippo. What do people think is the best outcome:

                          (a) things stay as they are and hope a preseason can bring back good Tippo
                          (b) trade out Tippo and replace him (in salary cap terms) with Watts
                          (c) trade out Tippo and have money for next year / another target
                          B!

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                          • 111431
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 697

                            Originally posted by troyjones2525
                            B!

                            Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk

                            i'm up for that

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                            • Billericay
                              Regular in the Side
                              • May 2013
                              • 712

                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              As things stand now we have 4 players, Tippett, Naismith, Sinclair and Cameron, fighting for one senior spot, taking up around 10% of our salary cap. Without specifying who will do what, they will typically take on the following roles next year:

                              1. Senior side ruckman
                              2. Reserves side ruckman
                              3. Travelling emergency
                              4. Injury list


                              What I had in mind was to try to trade Tippett at a giveaway price and use the money for the future. If that doesn't work, delist him and see if anyone will take him as a DFA. If that doesn't work, wait to see if at our 3rd round pick there is someone worth giving a 2 year contract to. If there is, then use that pick on that player, then redraft Tippett as a rookie. If not, redraft Tippett with our 3rd round pick.
                              You can't really tear up a players contract. But we could have done what the Bulldogs / Melbourne have done and trash their contracted player as publicly as possible and make it clear they have little future at the club. I'm very glad we didn't.

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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                Originally posted by The Big Cat
                                Rohan any day of the week!
                                Neither

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