2017 trading, drafting, list management

[bloodspirit]

I'm not tipping it to happen but I no longer think trading Tippo is as fanciful as i did. The key difference is that although he would continue to be able to collect his salary we can now credibly tell him that if he sticks with us he could remain mired in the reserves and that could be enough to get him to agree to a change. Still have to find a taker at a price that would suit. Pity that the Suns very likely have no use for him given his Gold Coast connection. I don't suppose Brisbane would be interested either even though they're likely to lose Schache although I hope we have sounded them out.

[Flying South]

Who would rather have in our forward line in the finals, Rohan or Membrey?

If Rohan was parked in our forward line instead of floating around the ground, I would definitely take him over Membrey.

[dimelb]

If Rohan was parked in our forward line instead of floating around the ground, I would definitely take him over Membrey.

Hear, hear!

[707]

Points for Academy and F/S selections. I seem to remember that the AFL tweaked the points system to stop clubs (GWS) paying for high draft picks with a host of much later, almost junk picks.

I think it was something along the lines of, lets say you match a pick at 8 but you only have pick 18 which won't be sufficient points even with the 15% discount, the extra points needed come off your first rounder for the following year.

Have I got that correct?

[ugg]

That's been in place since they implemented the system. The restriction they put in place was that the number of draft picks you could use to match had to be equal to the number of open list spots you currently hold.

[AnnieH]

You can't really tear up a players contract. But we could have done what the Bulldogs / Melbourne have done and trash their contracted player as publicly as possible and make it clear they have little future at the club. I'm very glad we didn't.

We're above doing that.

[707]

That's been in place since they implemented the system. The restriction they put in place was that the number of draft picks you could use to match had to be equal to the number of open list spots you currently hold.

Thanks Ugg, I knew they did something to stop/limit the use of junk picks.

So if for instance we were short of 1st round points next year (pick 18 not worth a lot of points) and if there happened to be a player we had to match a bid on, the balance of points would come off our second, as it did for Mills.

[wolftone57]

I?m pretty sure you can delist a contracted player. However the club is obligated to pay that player the money stated in the contract as well as include the money in the salary cap.

In fact this is the exact rumour going around at the moment. That Port are going to delist the contracted Matthew Lobbe if they can?t find any takers at the trade table.

I agree with you Ugg. A player can be delisted, even contracted, at any time but if contracted his contract must be fiscally honoured. The payment stays as part of the salary cap.

[wolftone57]

Ramanauskas is just using the Akermanis playbook by name dropping the Swans as an interested club.

He's probaby trying to get a better deal for Watts.

[Meg]

I agree with you Ugg. A player can be delisted, even contracted, at any time but if contracted his contract must be fiscally honoured. The payment stays as part of the salary cap.

Re payment - but not the full amount to the extent that another club then employs the delisted player, dependent on the terms of the new club?s contract.

[wolftone57]

Both have shown to be good role players, or good ordinary players as some like to say, who left for more playing opportunity. Aliir & Dawson are the obvious players still in the NEAFL that probably should be at senior level.

Hard to know if our recruiters are having a lazy 10 days or are actually planning a raid. In the fullness of time .....

I see Essendon & Melbourne have finally got a trade come in. Stringer is the interesting one, Dogs vs Dodoro, we watch with interest now Essendon have traded out pick 11 that Dogs wanted. Bit like Hawks who traded out 14 last year and in the process annoyed the Suns who saw it as part of the O'Meara deal.

We didn't trade last year and were quite happy to play the draft and rookie draft. Maybe we'll do that again. We will upgrade a few so we might see a last minute delisting or two, allowing the players to be picked up in the preseason draft. I don't think this draft looks particularly strong so we might only draft 2 at most 3 players. We might also delist a player then pick him up as a Rookie.

[Meg]

Re delistings - Brandon Jack has put up a very nice/gracious farewell note on his Instagram account.

[liz]

Contracted Swans midfielder wants out - AFL.com.au

Dan Robinson has asked for a trade, seeking better senior opportunities. He doesn't have a very high profile so not sure there will be lots of clubs knocking down the door. But if he has a relationship with Dew, maybe the Gold Coast is a possibility.

I'd have thought his standing was reasonably high at the club. He held his position in the senior team until he got injured, and while he's probably not "best 22" I get the feeling he's not far outside.

[ugg]

Strange one, considering:

1. He is a Sydney boy.
2. He's received chances when fit.

[waswan]

List clogger, had his chances, was unlucky with injury but id be disappointed if Hayward, Floreant, Dawson and this years first rounder didn't go past him

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Tippett, Pick 14 and Robinson for Lynch......