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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    #31
    Originally posted by CureTheSane
    He's dead and so are we.

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    • Industrial Fan
      Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
      • Aug 2006
      • 3318

      #32
      Originally posted by barry
      Finals. Lol
      thought the exact same Barry
      He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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      • aardvark
        Veterans List
        • Mar 2010
        • 5685

        #33
        Originally posted by barry
        Finals. Lol
        +1

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        • CureTheSane
          Carpe Noctem
          • Jan 2003
          • 5032

          #34
          Bump
          The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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          • ScottH
            It's Goodes to cheer!!
            • Sep 2003
            • 23665

            #35
            If they play like that every week, we'll romp into the finals.
            But that is a big ask.

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            • 707
              Veterans List
              • Aug 2009
              • 6204

              #36
              Just have to keep winning and we'll get there. The Hawthorn game was an aberration, have a look at the dominance either side of that game, Norf, Saints, Dogs. All of those games we were dominant and looked like we can beat anyone.

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              • barry
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                #37
                Every win this thread will get bumped, and every loss this thread will drop off.

                Whats the best outcome here... Do we really want to limp into 8th, and face 4 away finals, of which we may win 2.

                To win a flag from here, we need to win 8, lose 3, then win 4 on the road against the top teams.
                Thats a 12-3 record from now on, in a team that only last week couldnt beat Hawthorn.
                In fact I doubt any team has ever had that good a record when you consider it consists of about 9 interstate games.

                If finals happen, it will be nice, but the focus should be on getting a team that is ready for a shot at 2018.

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                • aardvark
                  Veterans List
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 5685

                  #38
                  Originally posted by barry
                  If finals happen, it will be nice, but the focus should be on getting a team that is ready for a shot at 2018.
                  Finals experience for our rookies would be a positive for 2018. A premiership would be a miracle but the AFL does like fairytales!

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                  • dejavoodoo44
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 8658

                    #39
                    In 2014, Richmond were 3-10 and then made the finals, after winning nine in a row. We're 4-7 and I suspect that we're better than that Richmond side.

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                    • Mark26
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 1535

                      #40
                      Win every game I say. Winning games = a winning mindset. If we bring the same intensity that we showed last night against the Dogs, anything is achievable this year.

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        #41
                        Originally posted by barry
                        Whats the best outcome here... Do we really want to limp into [finals]...

                        If finals happen, it will be nice, but the focus should be on getting a team that is ready for a shot at 2018.
                        Are you saying we should tank for picks?
                        Or stop playing players who won't be around in 2018 (Reg? Tippo? Macca?)
                        And / or fix up injured players?

                        Rather than put out the best team each week to try to make finals? If we made it we'd be galloping not limping.

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                        • dejavoodoo44
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 8658

                          #42
                          Originally posted by barry
                          Every win this thread will get bumped, and every loss this thread will drop off.

                          Whats the best outcome here... Do we really want to limp into 8th, and face 4 away finals, of which we may win 2.

                          To win a flag from here, we need to win 8, lose 3, then win 4 on the road against the top teams.
                          Thats a 12-3 record from now on, in a team that only last week couldnt beat Hawthorn.
                          In fact I doubt any team has ever had that good a record when you consider it consists of about 9 interstate games.

                          If finals happen, it will be nice, but the focus should be on getting a team that is ready for a shot at 2018.
                          Four away finals? If we play the Giants, then surely that should be moved to the SCG?

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                          • Thunder Shaker
                            Aut vincere aut mori
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 4205

                            #43
                            Finals are still unlikely from here, but until it's mathematically impossible we should not give up hope.

                            As the ladder stands right now, we are only two games outside the top 8 and our percentage is already better than six of the sides above us including three of the sides in the top eight. That will help our chances greatly.

                            Late-season runs make a good story, and I hope we make that run.

                            Our remaining fixture with a few notes:
                            * Richmond (MCG) - Richmond have been a bit of a bogey team in recent years. This will be a difficult game against the Ferals.
                            * Essendon (SCG) - Good winning chances.
                            * Melbourne (MCG) - Good winning chances.
                            * Gold Coast (SCG) - Sydney are one of only two sides that Gold Coast have never beaten.
                            * GWS Giants (SO) - The hardest game of the ones to come.
                            * St Kilda (SCG) - We had a good win against them last start. Should win again.
                            * Hawthorn (MCG) - Could be tricky.
                            * Geelong (KP) - Sydney are one of very few sides to have beaten Geelong at Kardinia Park multiple times in the past 6 years. I suspect we must win here to keep any late run going.
                            * Fremantle (SCG) - Good winning chances.
                            * Adelaide (AO) - We have traditionally struggled against Adelaide but we beat them last start.
                            * Carlton (SCG) - By this game, our fate will be clear. Even if we're done by this game, we should have good chances to make amends for our poor early form last start against them.

                            Hardest games: Richmond, GWS, Geelong, Adelaide. If we win all the other games (we may still drop one or two), we will need to win at least one of these to be in the finals.

                            But this is the 2017 season which has produced a lot of surprises. Let's just enjoy the rest of the season and not worry about whether we make the finals.
                            Last edited by Thunder Shaker; 9 June 2017, 10:43 AM. Reason: fact check
                            "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Markwebbos
                              Are you saying we should tank for picks?
                              Or stop playing players who won't be around in 2018 (Reg? Tippo? Macca?)
                              And / or fix up injured players?

                              Rather than put out the best team each week to try to make finals? If we made it we'd be galloping not limping.
                              No tanking. Any player not in 2018 fix (Macca the only definate) shouldnt be played.
                              Manage players that have injuries (miss the odd game, or get early surgery)

                              Work out the best 22 combination for 2018, which should win quite a few games anyway.

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                              • Levii3
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Jun 2015
                                • 655

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                                Finals are still unlikely from here, but until it's mathematically impossible we should not give up hope.

                                Our remaining fixture with a few notes:
                                * Richmond (MCG) - Richmond have been a bit of a bogey team in recent years. This will be a difficult game against the Ferals.
                                * Essendon (SCG) - Good winning chances.
                                * Melbourne (MCG) - Good winning chances.
                                * Gold Coast (SCG) - Sydney are one of only two sides that Gold Coast have never beaten.
                                * GWS Giants (SO) - The hardest game of the ones to come.
                                * St Kilda (SCG) - We had a good win against them last start. Should win again.
                                * Hawthorn (MCG) - Could be tricky.
                                * Geelong (KP) - Sydney are one of very few sides to have beaten Geelong at Kardinia Park multiple times in the past 6 years. I suspect we must win here to keep any late run going.
                                * Fremantle (SCG) - Good winning chances.
                                * Adelaide (AO) - We have traditionally struggled against Adelaide but we beat them last start.
                                * Carlton (SCG) - By this game, our fate will be clear. Even if we're done by this game, we should have good chances to make amends for our poor early form last start against them.

                                Hardest games: Richmond, GWS, Geelong, Adelaide. If we win all the other games (we may still drop one or two), we will need to win at least one of these to be in the finals.

                                But this is the 2017 season which has produced a lot of surprises. Let's just enjoy the rest of the season and not worry about whether we make the finals.
                                Melbourne at the G is an unknown they play really well or just average depends which team shows up.

                                We've only lost to Adelaide once in the last four years I think and that was last year in round 4 when Betts got away with a push in the back.

                                We may finish with 11 wins and miss finals which as Barry said might be a good thing and get ready for next year.

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