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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    Even though I think McVeigh has been in our top 5 players this year, it's probably in everyone's best interest if he got a Hodge-like deal to go to the Suns. McVeigh gets a smooth transition to his post playing career, the Suns get a leader of high quality and the Swans get a senior playing spot for any one of several deserving young players.

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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      It feels to me like his manager stirring the pot. Although Josh Kennedy has suggested McVeigh should play on next year, contradicting his coach!

      Category: | Herald Sun

      Longmire said it was the plan for the Swans? best and fairest winner and All-Australian to retire at the end of the year.

      ?He?s been really good, at the moment he?s retiring at the end of this year, that?s what the plan is,? Longmire said.

      ?He?s been playing well, he?s really contributing every week.

      ?The plan was set at the end of last year and we haven?t spoken about any adjustment to that at all at this point.?

      But teammate Josh Kennedy said the Swans may have to reassess.

      ?It might be back to the drawing board for the powers that be at the Swans,? Kennedy said.

      ?Jarrad has been fantastic. He?s a champion of the game.

      ?He?s been back to his best and really leading that defence.?

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      • Matty10
        Senior Player
        • Jun 2007
        • 1331

        I think Longmire is just being coy. Those sorts of discussions are best held until the end of the year for players nearing the end of their careers (particularly if they are playing well).

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        • KSAS
          Senior Player
          • Mar 2018
          • 1790

          The HS now has a head line insuating Essendon could be also interested luring the in demand Jarryd McVeigh. The merry go round continues.

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          • bloodspirit
            Clubman
            • Apr 2015
            • 4448

            Melbourne based powerhouse interested in Jarrad McVeigh

            If Macca does wind up going elsewhere, I think he'd be better off going to get exposure to a different club environment. Dew being at the Suns cuts both ways - there's the familiarity but that means there's less exposure to what's new and different and other ways of doing things for Macca. I hope he'll stay on as a coach with us. If his form really holds up I wouldn't necessarily be against him playing on, if he wants to, but at this stage I'm thinking he will and should retire at season's end.
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            • KSAS
              Senior Player
              • Mar 2018
              • 1790

              Originally posted by bloodspirit
              Melbourne based powerhouse interested in Jarrad McVeigh

              If Macca does wind up going elsewhere, I think he'd be better off going to get exposure to a different club environment. Dew being at the Suns cuts both ways - there's the familiarity but that means there's less exposure to what's new and different and other ways of doing things for Macca. I hope he'll stay on as a coach with us. If his form really holds up I wouldn't necessarily be against him playing on, if he wants to, but at this stage I'm thinking he will and should retire at season's end.
              +1 McVeigh does appear to have that trait to become a decent coach. If he does pursue his coaching career externally, hope he finds his way back to us in the future.

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              • KSAS
                Senior Player
                • Mar 2018
                • 1790

                Tom Brown on triple M this morning has now soften on Darcy Moore going to the Swans, basing it on the noise coming more from Darcy's manager. He appears to be fixated with the Swans, because he now has gut feeling that the Swans will land a real big fish at season's end, Jeremy McGovern being one possibility. Eddie McGuire responded by saying the Swans have their own free agency, inciting they land a big fish every 2 years going all the way back to Plugger & Roos. What a laugh!!! I suppose Hawthorn doesn't count!

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                • Cosmic Wizard
                  recruit me pretty please!
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 620

                  Hey boys and girls.

                  There is a great podcast Junktime #167.

                  It's a interview with Ryan 'Fitzy' Fitzgerald, he played for the swans at the turn of the century.

                  Some of the stories about Rocket Eade will make you rewind the tape and listen again.

                  Very funny and tragic, download and enjoy!!
                  doof-doof

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                  • Mel_C
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 4470

                    Originally posted by KSAS
                    Tom Brown on triple M this morning has now soften on Darcy Moore going to the Swans, basing it on the noise coming more from Darcy's manager. He appears to be fixated with the Swans, because he now has gut feeling that the Swans will land a real big fish at season's end, Jeremy McGovern being one possibility. Eddie McGuire responded by saying the Swans have their own free agency, inciting they land a big fish every 2 years going all the way back to Plugger & Roos. What a laugh!!! I suppose Hawthorn doesn't count!
                    Eddie is just jealous that Collingwood can't attract big names. Apart from Treloar who of note has gone to them? (And he must regret not going to the Tigers!)

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                    • Nico
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 11339

                      Originally posted by bloodspirit
                      Melbourne based powerhouse interested in Jarrad McVeigh

                      If Macca does wind up going elsewhere, I think he'd be better off going to get exposure to a different club environment. Dew being at the Suns cuts both ways - there's the familiarity but that means there's less exposure to what's new and different and other ways of doing things for Macca. I hope he'll stay on as a coach with us. If his form really holds up I wouldn't necessarily be against him playing on, if he wants to, but at this stage I'm thinking he will and should retire at season's end.
                      What if Jarrad McVeigh is the successor to John Longmire? If that is the case he won't be going anywhere. Why wouldn't we be developing our own home grown person to take over. That way we don't deviate from what has been successful for so long. Longmire did a long apprenticeship before he took over. Maybe that's why John is saying it was agreed on at the end of last season. Looks the ideal successor. Remember he was in the box for a game last season.
                      http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                      • stevoswan
                        Veterans List
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 8555

                        In regard to McVeigh, was not part of his 1 year extension deal walking into a Swans coaching role at the end of it? Firstly, why would he want to cut his teeth at the Suns when he can do that here? Secondly, if he and the Swans think he is worth another playing year, it will happen....at the Swans.

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                        • Ludwig
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          Rhyce Shaw seems the logical choice for next head coach to me, but with Horse at only 47 y.o. the heir apparent could be long mired in the stable of assistant coaches.

                          I don't think McVeigh would make a good head coach. I can't say why. It's just a feeling.

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                          • S.S. Bleeder
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 2165

                            Originally posted by liz
                            If he wants to play on next year and the club doesn't think it has room on its list, I am sure he'll listen to offers. And there's no doubt that a club like the Suns desperately needs players/coaches with experience of success and driving high standards.

                            It may also depend on what the club has said to him regarding the availability of a spot on its coaching panel when he decides to retire from playing. And whether he wants to experience life in another club environment. I imagine a few clubs would be interested in his coaching services.
                            I'd be quite happy with his. It's a win/win scenario. The last thing I want is McVeigh to stick around one more year and for us to lose someone like Newman in the process (ALA Membrey and Goodes scenario). We need to think strategically, not for the next season as Hawthorn have done. McVeigh has been great so far this year but he hasn't had any injuries, yet.

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                            • S.S. Bleeder
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 2165

                              Originally posted by Nico
                              What if Jarrad McVeigh is the successor to John Longmire? If that is the case he won't be going anywhere. Why wouldn't we be developing our own home grown person to take over. That way we don't deviate from what has been successful for so long. Longmire did a long apprenticeship before he took over. Maybe that's why John is saying it was agreed on at the end of last season. Looks the ideal successor. Remember he was in the box for a game last season.
                              Firstly, Buckleys chance of that happening. Secondly, we need coaches and management with worldly experience who have gained knowledge from other clubs.

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                              • AB Swannie
                                Senior Player
                                • Mar 2017
                                • 1579

                                Great to see Ronke signed on for another two years. I am really impressed with his pace, pressure, and skill.

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