Swans chat Is Longmire cooked?

[caj23]

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[Agent 86]

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Nope

[troyjones2525]

Maybe... he doesn't kick the football though...

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[caj23]

What is our gameplan?
How does it stack up against the best?
What are our strengths and how do we play to them?
What are our weaknesses and how do we mitigate them?

[cheersquadsteve]

There is no plan B
Tonight we looked slow and not like a team at all

[longmile]

Just kick it along the boundary to a contest and hope for the best.

It was good when we had the best team in the league but now that we have a young experienced team were getting shredded.

If we won those 2 grand finals it'd be a different story

[gazza]

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absolutely no new ideas

[chalbilto]

It appears that the team is playing safety first football and are either playing to instruction or playing self preservation and not willing to take a risk. Also I think that they are too Buddy reliant and I think that he is playing injured. Really missing McVeigh, Hanners, Jack, Melican, Reid (all when fully fit) and even though he has tried his best a dominant forceful ruckman. Injuries and age have hit really hard this year when it all started with Tippett.

[Doctor]

A ridiculous question.

[Ralph Dawg]

He can only come up with a plan that the players are capable of implementing. The way they we executing our basic skills at present, plan a down to z wont help.

[caj23]

Why?

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A ridiculous question.

Why is it ridiculous?

[0918330512]

Is he cooked? He gets a fair roasting here

[aardvark]

So the last few years we draft players with "electric" speed and then we don't let them take the game on. Doesn't make much sense really. We are just a disorganised rabble. If it was my choice Horse would be gone.

[Markwebbos]

Not cooked but singed.

[mcs]

So the last few years we draft players with "electric" speed and then we don't let them take the game on. Doesn't make much sense really. We are just a disorganised rabble. If it was my choice Horse would be gone.

That is a hard argument to counter aardvark, and really it seems to be where I feel it is too. We seem to be focusing on drafting players with leg speed, and at least at junior level, good skills. But our gameplan isn't suited to the style of footy that will maximise what they can bring to the table. Our gameplan is stuck back in 2005, where we made up for areas we lacked through sheer willpower, an immensely amazing ability to control the game even when under enormous pressure, and a style of AFL at the macro level far different to where the game is headed. If there were clear signs of our gameplan evolving alongside the changes in our list and changes more broadly in the game, I'd be comfortable with where we are at. But we do look as you say like a disorganised rabble.

Like the sook down at Geelong, there is no doubt Longmire has proven himself to be a very fine AFL coach, very able of achieving great things in the game. But at the back of my mind (2016's absolute stitch up aside), I do wonder if there could be more silverware in the cupboard if a different man had of had the chance to take charge of the quality list we have had over the last several seasons. We of course would never say that had 2014 or 2016 ended differently, but its always an itch when I think about Longmire.

I just wonder if his natural time at the Swans is up and we are ready for a truly fresh change of direction with an outsider with a new approach to things. None of that is to take away from a great job Longmire has done at the club - but even the best coaches become stale after an extended period at any club. And the memories of the 2012 triumph, like the 2005 triumph with Roos, will always define in my mind at least the Longmire period at the swans. That year gave such joy, outside of the Grand Final win - but just for some superb football by a wonderful team.