2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • 707
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2009
    • 6204

    Originally posted by rickmat
    If Jones really wants out, why dont we deal with Melb and exchange for Frost who is a young key position back? Better outcome for Swans as we really dont need another pick so low. His brother is there so might be better outcome for Jones and better for us
    How about Melbourne's second rounder pick 20 that will end up at 22/23. Melbourne not in Jone's frame because Saints are offering bigger $.

    Maybe Saints 2020 first and we can add back some of those later 2019 picks we currently hold which Saints would be grateful for and we probably won't use.

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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      I think it’s frustrating that the Melbourne media decides Jones is only worth a second rounder because he turns the ball over by foot. Presumably the same is true of Dylan Shiel?

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      • caj23
        Senior Player
        • Aug 2003
        • 2462

        Shiel is a far better player than Jones

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        • Markwebbos
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2016
          • 7186

          Originally posted by caj23
          Shiel is a far better player than Jones
          But he also turns the ball over by foot

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          • Melbourne_Blood
            Senior Player
            • May 2010
            • 3312

            Originally posted by caj23
            Shiel is a far better player than Jones
            He’s better , but if he is worth two first rounders surely Jones is worth 1 , a later one.


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            • MattW
              Veterans List
              • May 2011
              • 4195

              Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
              He’s better , but if he is worth two first rounders surely Jones is worth 1 , a later one.


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              Shiel was/is not worth two first rounders.

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              • dejavoodoo44
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2015
                • 8492

                Looks like Rowell has booked in the number one pick. In the NAB League GF, his stats were 44 disposals, 9 tackles, 2 goals and 170 DT points.

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                • caj23
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 2462

                  Think you can just forget about getting a first rounder for Jones because we aren’t going to get one

                  He’s worth about 22-28 and that’s roughly what we should end up with if he goes

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                  • Thunder Shaker
                    Aut vincere aut mori
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 4159

                    Originally posted by caj23
                    Think you can just forget about getting a first rounder for Jones because we aren’t going to get one

                    He’s worth about 22-28 and that’s roughly what we should end up with if he goes
                    The Saints have no second-round picks to trade (we've already got that pick off them for Hannebery).

                    Maybe we get the Saints' 2020 second-round pick? Seems a fair trade, especially if we want to stock up on future picks so we can match bids next year on our two Academy prospects.
                    "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                    • stevoswan
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8543

                      Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                      Looks like Rowell has booked in the number one pick. In the NAB League GF, his stats were 44 disposals, 9 tackles, 2 goals and 170 DT points.
                      He's a gun alright. On ABC Grandstand they gave his half time stats.....which IIRC were 29 disposals, 5 tackles and two goals and his team were 55 pts up!

                      Numero Uno.....

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                      • Melbourne_Blood
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2010
                        • 3312

                        Originally posted by MattW
                        Shiel was/is not worth two first rounders.
                        AA midfielder , but regardless , 2 first round picks is what Essendon paid for him so if he’s not worth that you can tell that to them .


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                        • Auntie.Gerald
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6474

                          More useful to us will be a player traded in then a pick mid 20s I would suspect re Jones

                          Hence the possibility mentioned already

                          Jones to saints
                          Stevens to cats
                          Constable to Swans ?

                          We save some serious $ ie Jones vs Constable contract would be minimum $300k pa

                          Constable does have the capacity to be a cut off defender or inside mid at 191cm
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • Markwebbos
                            Veterans List
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 7186

                            On paper Constable has the potential to be the sort of player we need... but does anyone know whether he’ll deliver on that potential, or whether he was on our radar in his draft year?

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                            • Captain
                              Captain of the Side
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 3602

                              Losing Jones would surely free up some much needed $$. I imagine this would be used to lure Daniher.

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                              • Nico
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 11329

                                Originally posted by Markwebbos
                                I think it’s frustrating that the Melbourne media decides Jones is only worth a second rounder because he turns the ball over by foot. Presumably the same is true of Dylan Shiel?
                                I think if push came to shove that we would find that only the cream are elite at kicking to position. So many turn the footy over. If that is Jones's biggest sin then clubs are looking for the perfect player. I think Jones's main fault is his uncanny ability to turn back into a contest when he is clear, which puts his disposal under pressure.
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