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Ronke is not a rookie!
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The biggest drops / climbs in player rankings this year from 2018 so far... according to Champion Data
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BIGGEST DROP IN AFL PLAYER RATINGS 2018 TO 2019
7. Callum Sinclair (Sydney) -35 per cent
BIGGEST RISE IN PLAYER RATINGS 2018 TO 2019
8. Dane Rampe (Sydney) +44 per cent
9. Gary Rohan (Geelong) +42 per centComment
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Out-of-contract midfielder Brayden Sier is adamant his future is at Collingwood, while also suggesting there is room for both he and Dayne Beams in the same Magpies side.
He is out of contract at season's end and while he said there was no update on talks for a new deal, he is keen to stay put.
"Yeah, bloody oath. I love Collingwood. I love the coaching staff, I love the boys," Sier told The Age. "It's great to be part of such a big club, and such a big family at Collingwood. I think they've got my back, and I've definitely got theirs going forward."Comment
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What is this "official AFL playing lists" that you are referring to as your source. He is listed as a senior player on the club's website, consistent with my recollection that they committed to promoting him when giving him a two year contract extension last year.
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Champion Data Prospectus has him as a rookie and the AFL Record season publication has him as a rookie, both of these are AFL publications. I'm going by those, as opposed to my recollections of his new contract last year where I assumed he'd been upgraded with that contract. Despite his loss of form you'd think he'll be on the list for 2020.Comment
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He has a contract for next year already.
As you note, clubs are only allowed to retain one third year rookie, and we retained Pink from 2018 to 2019. So how could we also have retained Ronke as a rookie?
And you don't think that the Swans know their list and who is on the senior/rookie list? I certainly don't think it's beyond the AFL to make mistakes in their publications.Comment
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There's a direct quote from Ronke here, confirming he's contracted until 2020 (inclusive):
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True but I wouldn't think we'd be looking at him as a fringe player given our desperate need for his type. We'd be in a position to almost guarantee him a regular 22 spot, Collingwood can't as Beams has a good few years left in him. IMO he'd be crazy to stay especially given that Collingwood have little room in their cap.
They have Thomas, Sidebottom and Treloar all of which should be ahead of him I would think. If he doesn't come to us I would think that he'd be going somewhere else regardless.Comment
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Agree , Especially if Grundy re-signs on what would have to be in the realm of 800k or more a season. Couldn’t leave much left for Sier. We could offer relative overs of say 450k over 3-4 years and it will still be hard for the pies to get close you would think.
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Did youse all not read this that I posted yesterday?
I wasn't suggesting he would be a fringer player at the Swans rather that we'd pick him up (a la Josh Kennedy) as a fringe player at the Pies. But (1) I think he'll play out the rest of the year in the AFL (2) they want to keep him (3) he doesn't want to leave. Otherwise its in the bag.
(btw happy to eat humble pie if he is a Swan in 2020)Comment
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Barrett's latest musings on the Swans from his weekly 'Sliding Doors' article:
"If.....Tippett, Hannebery and Rohan are already gone and McVeigh and Jack potentially to follow ...
Then.....we're sensing another, old-fashioned, no-one-saw-it-coming, big-name recruiting coup come October."
Interesting and also speculated here in recent times....but I'm not so sure. I'm sensing some targeted recruiting/recycling, a la the early 2000's.
Followed by a premiership within two or three seasons.
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The Beams injury is great news for us. Hopefully Sier dominates, drives up his market value and the Pies can't afford him. We'd night have to pay him more as a result, but we have a bigger wallet come seasons end.
I'd be annoyed if I was Sier's manager. He's just talked himself out of a strong bargaining position with the Pies.
They might "have his back", but at the end of the day, there are a lot of guys taking a slice of the cap there, and there is only so much left for him at the end. So they likely can't pay him his market value - so it's whether he wants to take a cut over the next 3-4 years whilst the core midfield make bank. Then he might get his worth after that period. But that assumes his career reaches that far.
If I was his manager, I'd be advising him to consider higher priced offers from us and roos/saints/blues/sun's. Even if he wants to stay, it will drive up his worth at the Pies (like Mason Wood did last year).Comment
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Pies have been exceptionally good at squeezing all that talent under their salary cap, but I think the Beams trade may have messed things up (and they paid way too much).
Even so I still think it’s going to be very hard to prise him out of the Pies.
I like the look of that young ruckman at the Crows, O’Reilly.Comment
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