2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Aprilbr]

I must admit that I am most concerned about our progress in re-signing young talent such as Jones and Papley than in any new potential recruits. If we are to move forward then we need to hang onto young talent. Teams that go into long periods of decline tend to struggle in the player retention area. We have been good in this area in the past decade. Let's hope that it continues.

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[cruiser]

I think we should make a big play for Brodie Grundy. I dream of seeing him play in red and white.

[Melbourne_Blood]

2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

I must admit that I am most concerned about our progress in re-signing young talent such as Jones and Papley than in any new potential recruits. If we are to move forward then we need to hang onto young talent. Teams that go into long periods of decline tend to struggle in the player retention area. We have been good in this area in the past decade. Let's hope that it continues.

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I do agree that should be the priority , but we need to be looking at who we can bring in to help lead this young team as well. To have arguably the best ruckman in the Comp would be a massive boost to our side and would see us contending for finals next year IMO. But I don’t see how we would manage to get his signature , he either stays at Collingwood or goes to SA, and I don’t think Port need another ruckman, so Grundy stays I think . I reckon Brandon Preuss probably regrets signing at Melbourne and perhaps they regret signing him . He’s good back up for Gawn but they can’t play in the same side together , and he’s too good to be playing 2’s . He’s only 24 and has the potential to be a top 5 ruckman IMO . Maybe we can all reach a mutually beneficial deal there ?


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[Mark26]

I do agree that should be the priority , but we need to be looking at who we can bring in to help lead this young team as well. To have arguably the best ruckman in the Comp would be a massive boost to our side and would see us contending for finals next year IMO. But I don’t see how we would manage to get his signature , he either stays at Collingwood or goes to SA, and I don’t think Port need another ruckman, so Grundy stays I think . I reckon Brandon Preuss probably regrets signing at Melbourne and perhaps they regret signing him . He’s good back up for Gawn but they can’t play in the same side together , and he’s too good to be playing 2’s . He’s only 24 and has the potential to be a top 5 ruckman IMO . Maybe we can all reach a mutually beneficial deal there ?


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No way we get Grundy. We'd have to give up one of our own stars you'd think. I like the idea of Preuss though, provided we clear out some tall timber who are not likely to make it into the squad.

[Markwebbos]

No way we get Grundy. We'd have to give up one of our own stars you'd think. I like the idea of Preuss though, provided we clear out some tall timber who are not likely to make it into the squad.

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Can’t believe Preuss moved from being Goldie’s understudy to bring Gawn’s.

[MattW]

I think we should make a big play for Brodie Grundy. I dream of seeing him play in red and white.

Yes. I'd prefer him to anyone else in the comp.

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No way we get Grundy. We'd have to give up one of our own stars you'd think. I like the idea of Preuss though, provided we clear out some tall timber who are not likely to make it into the squad.

Only Heeney, Parker and Rampe are untouchable for the purposes of a Grundy trade.

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And Blakey.

[707]

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Can’t believe Preuss moved from being Goldie’s understudy to bring Gawn’s.

The guy must be an idiot, wanted to move because he was stuck behind Goldy at Norf who may only have another couple of seasons left in him, to then get stuck behind Gawn at the Dees who has plenty of seasons left in him.

When I heard the trade last year I fell off my chair, couldn't understand it at all and still don't, an idiot, the guy is an idiot

[giant]

Thanks for this info too. I knew that Kyle trained here last year and I didn’t think that Josh had any animosity towards the Swans - just that he preferred to be drafted to a Melbourne-based club. It is certainly rare that a player prefers to be drafted to a different club than that of his father. I can only think of two - Josh and Blakey. There are probably others.

Marc Murphy if one assumes that the Lions were the team his father played for.

[barry]

I think we should make a big play for Brodie Grundy. I dream of seeing him play in red and white.

What do we do with Naismith then?

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With a fit list our Ruck division is:
Naismith. No 1.
Sinclair. No. 2
Knoll. Development.
Cameron, Amartey: pinch hitters.

That's not the worst in the league. Do we really have to go after a big name Ruck?

[Melbourne_Blood]

What do we do with Naismith then?

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With a fit list our Ruck division is:
Naismith. No 1.
Sinclair. No. 2
Knoll. Development.
Cameron, Amartey: pinch hitters.

That's not the worst in the league. Do we really have to go after a big name Ruck?

How long do we have to wait for Naismith to get fit though ? I don’t think Grundy is gettable for us but if he was you’d make it happen , our ruck stocks aren’t great even when fit . Not all of us rate Naismith as much more than a competent tap ruckman who offers noting in terms of marking , scoreboard impact , physicality or link up.


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[0918330512]

No way we get Grundy. We'd have to give up one of our own stars you'd think. I like the idea of Preuss though, provided we clear out some tall timber who are not likely to make it into the squad.

Isn’t he a free agent?

[liz]

Isn’t he a free agent?

No. Not yet. Just out of contract.

I reckon the chances of him leaving Collingwood in the near future are very low, while the chances of him leaving Melbourne (big footy city) to move to Sydney (small footy city, not home) are close to zero.

[Ralph Dawg]

What do we do with Naismith then?

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With a fit list our Ruck division is:
Naismith. No 1.
Sinclair. No. 2
Knoll. Development.
Cameron, Amartey: pinch hitters.

That's not the worst in the league. Do we really have to go after a big name Ruck?

Naismith should've been delisted. Always injured and when he played (3 years ago?) offered absolutely nothing around the park. The game has moved to the point where the ruckman needs a sufficient engine to play as an additional midfielder and also provide a target forward whilst "resting". Happy to be proven wrong when he comes back but I have serious reservations about him as our number 1 ruck. Preuss would be a great option - he comes from a rugby background so would feel at home in Sydney (although he is a Queenslander!)

[MattW]

No. Not yet. Just out of contract.

I reckon the chances of him leaving Collingwood in the near future are very low, while the chances of him leaving Melbourne (big footy city) to move to Sydney (small footy city, not home) are close to zero.

The only advantage we may have is the capacity to pay him more money.

[MattW]

Naismith should've been delisted. Always injured and when he played (3 years ago?) offered absolutely nothing around the park. The game has moved to the point where the ruckman needs a sufficient engine to play as an additional midfielder and also provide a target forward whilst "resting". Happy to be proven wrong when he comes back but I have serious reservations about him as our number 1 ruck. Preuss would be a great option - he comes from a rugby background so would feel at home in Sydney (although he is a Queenslander!)

I still think about how we played so well with Naismith in our team in the second half of 2016. We haven't won hitout counts since he last played. His career record is 19-9. I'm looking forward to him coming back into the team at the end of this year.