2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[barry]

I wonder if we will use pick 5 for daniher if GWS do a swap pick with Melbourne to get to pick 3, and make Green unavailable to us.

[caj23]

With Carlton involved looks like that conforms Paps is out the door

I don’t think we’re going to like how this pans out!????

[MattW]

With Carlton involved looks like that conforms Paps is out the door

I don’t think we’re going to like how this pans out!????

Agree with your first point, and if so, we've done pretty well to offset the loss of Papley.

Remaining hopeful regarding your broader point.

[Markwebbos]

I hope we get Daniher and retain some decent draft picks. Realistically Tom Green is a long shot anyway.

[Foreign Legion]

I reckon this final trade day is a bit of a sham - most of the news will happen after 4:30PM for news footage etc. I bet 90% of the deals have been done now just stage managing the announcements I think.

[Markwebbos]

This from Jay Clark in the Hun

Category: | Herald Sun

Some may argue its flat-out trade period hypocrisy.

Right now, Sydney Swans are saying to Carlton they won’t do the Tom Papley deal unless they secure an agreement on Joe Daniher first.

If the Swans are going to lose a goalkicker (Papley), they simply must get one in return (Daniher)...

What is most interesting about the Daniher stalemate on the last day of this drawn-out trade period is that Essendon’s position is, essentially, exactly the same.

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This implies pick 9 will form part of a potential Daniher trade

DANIHER DEAL RELIANT ON PAPLEY MOVE: CLEARY

AFL.com.au's Mitch Cleary is on Trade Radio live from AFL House. Mitch reckons Tom Papley will get to Carlton today, independent of the Joe Daniher deal, but should the gun small forward not make it to the Blues for some reason, the Daniher deal won't get done either.

[bloodspirit]

I wonder if we will use pick 5 for daniher if GWS do a swap pick with Melbourne to get to pick 3, and make Green unavailable to us.

No. We are not going to get Green in any scenario. That is becoming increasingly clear. GWS are determined to match any bid for him. So this won't affect our approach to other matters. If we do offer pick 5 for Daniher, I don't think GWS pick trading for pick 3 will have had anything to do with it.

[Beerman]

Should we be looking to swap 32 or 43 for a second-round pick next year? I haven't crunched the numbers, but how are we looking for points for next year?

[MattW]

Mitch Cleary on Twitter: "Stephen Silvagni on the Tom Papley deal: “It’s 50-50.”
@AFLcomau @traderadio"

[Agent 86]

You're most probably right Barry. But I think the Pies are looking at him more in the forward / ruck role. His path to that position at the swans is blocked and strange as it sounds, may get more opportunity at the pies. Having watched him in the NEAFL over the last few years, he can take a mark and is an excellent set shot.

I can’t help thinking that we never really gave him a chance at senior level. When we were clearly struggling at stoppages this year (even before Sinclair went down for the season), I was wondering what he had to do to get a run.

I hope he gets some opportunity at the pies. Not looking forward to him kicking a bag and dominating the ruck against us in a year or 2.

[0918330512]

Quite often people are writing that Daniher is a free agent next year. He’s a [/i]restricted [/i]free agent. But his Bombers contract expires next year. While the Bombers can match any offer we make, what happens if Joe simply refuses to actually sign a contract tabled by the Bombers? You can put a contract in front of him and a pen in his hand, but you can’t actually make him scrawl his name on the parchment. What happens then? PSD?

[Markwebbos]

Quite often people are writing that Daniher is a free agent next year. He’s a [/i]restricted [/i]free agent. But his Bombers contract expires next year. While the Bombers can match any offer we make, what happens if Joe simply refuses to actually sign a contract tabled by the Bombers? You can put a contract in front of him and a pen in his hand, but you can’t actually make him scrawl his name on the parchment. What happens then? PSD?

I believe so.

[barry]

PSD.

But as a mature age player, he can specify his terms (contract) as a condition of drafting.
Chances are we will have a pick before Essendon, so its only fending off the likes of Carlton or Gold coast who are earlier than us.

I think we got Tippett the same way.

[Cosmic Wizard]

Praying that the whole thing falls over!!

Essendon demands to much and hopefully they will be their typically hard nose wank_ers

We need midfielder not another useless forward.

[iigrover]

The way I understand [and RWOers let me know if Im wrong] it is that a Free Agent can just *sign* a new contract, whereas a Restricted Free Agent can *negotiate* a contract with a new club , but cannot sign it until their old club is advised of the contract and has an opportunity to match/better the offer. However, their is no obligation on the RFA to accept the matched/better offer. They can simply ignore it and sign the new contract one anyway [but only after the matching period].