2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Auntie.Gerald]

After “we will get” KB said “and we will”

[Melbourne_Blood]

Wonder if we could bundle up next years first rounder with one of our second round picks in order to snag another high pick this year ? My knowledge of the points index isn’t great but I gather it is likely ( with a lot of water to go under the bridge still ) our first pick may be used to match for Campbell, and so it’s kind of a wasted pick any how ? Assuming we have enough picks later to make up points for he and Gulden, and the fact we can go into deficit if need be. I guess there is risk involved but if we could nab two highish first round picks this year and another two first rounders next year ( potentially ) that’s pretty handy to add to a young list.


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[Markwebbos]

Can a couple of posters please cut out the bickering and name calling. I’ve just moved house and don’t have internet access at the moment other than via my phone. And it’s tricky to moderate on a phone. Otherwise I would have deleted a handful of recent posts. Would be appreciated if those responsible can do us all a favour and just move on.

Sorry Liz, Sorry Baz.

[Markwebbos]

Wonder if we could bundle up next years first rounder with one of our second round picks in order to snag another high pick this year ? My knowledge of the points index isn’t great but I gather it is likely ( with a lot of water to go under the bridge still ) our first pick may be used to match for Campbell, and so it’s kind of a wasted pick any how ? Assuming we have enough picks later to make up points for he and Gulden, and the fact we can go into deficit if need be. I guess there is risk involved but if we could nab two highish first round picks this year and another two first rounders next year ( potentially ) that’s pretty handy to add to a young list.

I've been very tempted by this idea, but it could be a very costly exercise. If we finish outside of the 8 again next year, as I expect we will, then we'd be handing over a future top 10 pick (say pick 10) and a second rounder (say our pick 32) = 1979 points, equivalent to pick better than pick 5 for something probably in the teens. Maybe a straight swap - next years first for this years first.

[liz]

Wonder if we could bundle up next years first rounder with one of our second round picks in order to snag another high pick this year ? My knowledge of the points index isn’t great but I gather it is likely ( with a lot of water to go under the bridge still ) our first pick may be used to match for Campbell, and so it’s kind of a wasted pick any how ? Assuming we have enough picks later to make up points for he and Gulden, and the fact we can go into deficit if need be. I guess there is risk involved but if we could nab two highish first round picks this year and another two first rounders next year ( potentially ) that’s pretty handy to add to a young list.


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As things stand, we can’t because we don’t hold a full complement of other future picks. I think we are missing a third rounder. So we would have to trade one in before (or at the same time) as trading out the first rounder. I think we are allowed to trade our future second without replacing the missing third rounder.

Regardless of that, I’ve read supporters of a dozen or so teams claiming they “have a feeling” their club will trade up, or hoping out loud that will happen. Some clubs have made their desire to trade up known. Not many clubs looking to trade down or out, and no club can trade if they don’t have another club to trade with. There are a couple of clubs who might yet manoeuvre when a bid comes, but there aren’t many bid eligible players this year, and those who do have access to them have already done a bit of manoeuvring.

[Melbourne_Blood]

I've been very tempted by this idea, but it could be a very costly exercise. If we finish outside of the 8 again next year, as I expect we will, then we'd be handing over a future top 10 pick (say pick 10) and a second rounder (say our pick 32) = 1979 points, equivalent to pick better than pick 5 for something probably in the teens. Maybe a straight swap - next years first for this years first.

Yeah I get that , but I have heard next years talent pool is supposedly much weaker than this years , and the fact there will be so many academy and FS prospects tipped in next years first round. So it might still be worth it. On the other hand every other club knows this too so they may be reluctant to go for it ...


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[stevoswan]

Resorting to name calling. Sad.

Pardon?

#notrealfans

Sadder.

[Aprilbr]

It's news to me that Flanders doesn't want to leave Melbourne and has said that publicly? A form of draft tampering?

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[Markwebbos]

I read an article last night at home re: Flanders could not find it at work today. Sorry.

I just listened to Cal Twomey explain his phantom draft. My jaw dropped. He says we haven’t shown as much interest in Flanders as other clubs

Also that we were desperate for Lochie O’Brien the year we took Ling, He thinks we might be after a running player this year.

Based on that and my rumour, I really think he has no idea and Flanders was a total guess.

I could see us picking Ash, Stephens or even Young (who is quick) over Flanders.

I think it’s completely open

[stevoswan]

It's news to me that Flanders doesn't want to leave Melbourne and has said that publicly? A form of draft tampering?

Not only that but basically inviting future approaches from Victorian clubs to entice him home once he's gone interstate!

Red flag Swans!!

If it is true that he has said this, I'm going cold on Flanders.

[KSAS]

Not only that but basically inviting future approaches from Victorian clubs to entice him home once he's gone interstate!

Red flag Swans!!

If it is true that he has said this, I'm going cold on Flanders.

If there's any truth to this, players who make such comments should be bamned from that year's draft. Full stop. AFL must take strong action & make an example to stop this becoming a tactic for the easons given above.

[Melbourne_Blood]

I’ve tried googling anything relating to Flanders saying he didn’t want to leave Vic and found nothin. One article explicitly states he has no issue moving interstate. He moved away from his home in fish creek to Warragul ( admittedly not all that far) to join a school that would better enhance his chances of getting drafted, as a 17 year old.


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[Markwebbos]

I’ve tried googling anything relating to Flanders saying he didn’t want to leave Vic and found nothin. One article explicitly states he has no issue moving interstate. He moved away from his home in fish creek to Warragul ( admittedly not all that far) to join a school that would better enhance his chances of getting drafted, as a 17 year old.


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When I get home I will post my dodgy source.

[Markwebbos]

Blues and Crows discussing swapping picks 6 and 9, so that Blues get Young and Crows still McAsey...

Also according to Hun

“Sydney is also understood to be in talks over trading pick No.25.”

[Bloods05]

Resorting to name calling. Sad.

Your problems could originate here.

Clutching at straws much?



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