2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • mattybloods
    Warming the Bench
    • Jul 2016
    • 482

    Peter Ladhams looks the goods and is only 22. Stuck behind Lycett, might be worth trying to get out of port

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    • The Runner
      Regular in the Side
      • May 2017
      • 718

      The sentiment in this thread should be tracked against win/losses

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      • Ralph Dawg
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2018
        • 1729

        The key for us in this year's draft is how we use our first pick (?2). I can't see any wisdom in using it to draft another slightly built youngster to add to our fleet of pip squeaks. I think we should go hard with it to try and get a bigger body in the midfield or a ruckman. Even if it means splitting it for say late 1st rounder and an early 2nd. Adelaide will surely embark on a rebuild and one of the Crouch brothers would be more than handy. Or as mentioned Ladhams or Chol / Nankervis (late 1st rounder). We are getting killed in the middle by the better teams, in large part because the youngsters can't maintain the pressure for four quarters.

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        • dejavoodoo44
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2015
          • 8492

          Originally posted by The Runner
          The sentiment in this thread should be tracked against win/losses
          I'm guessing that there would be a close correlation.

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          • Markwebbos
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            Originally posted by The Runner
            The sentiment in this thread should be tracked against win/losses
            We are a fickle bunch ...

            When our only measure of success is win/loss it makes sense to react differently to those two different outcomes.

            Maybe we need new/different KPIs for the rest of 2020?

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            • longmile
              Crumber
              • Apr 2011
              • 3360

              Originally posted by Markwebbos
              We are a fickle bunch ...

              When our only measure of success is win/loss it makes sense to react differently to those two different outcomes.

              Maybe we need new/different KPIs for the rest of 2020?
              Anything but bottom 2

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                There are no ruckmen of note in this draft, a couple of rated forwards who could chop out in the ruck but no ruckmen.

                No way would I be splitting pick 2, take it to the draft and get a potentially elite KP or mid, see the ESPN write up previous page. We just have to sit tight and be patient on the rebuild.

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                • Ralph Dawg
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 1729

                  Does anyone know if we can use pick 2 and still get both Campbell and Gulden?

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                  • Mr Magoo
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2008
                    • 1255

                    Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                    Does anyone know if we can use pick 2 and still get both Campbell and Gulden?
                    I asked same previously and I think that if Campbell goes top ten and gulden top 30 we would struggle with current picks to match without either going into deficit or trading in more/lower picks .

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                    • caj23
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 2462

                      Whatever our top pick is (looks like 2,3,4) we simply must take the best available player. I'd prefer a mid, but if there's a KPP to good to overlook then we have to take them.

                      Talk of splitting or trading the pick is ridiculous given where the list is at

                      If we have to go into deficit for Campbell and Gulden so be it, they are known entities in a year when drafting is going to be particularly tricky

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                      • Captain
                        Captain of the Side
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 3602

                        Originally posted by stevoswan
                        Uselesss for free is still useless. The 'upside' you speak of is unlikely to eventuate. He's a crock. If he comes, Paps goes and I know who most clubs would prefer at this time. Far more upside with Tom.....lets concentrate on keeping him.
                        Don't make the mistake of combining Papley with Daniher. Last year they were obviously linked as we needed to satisfy Essendon, but not this year.

                        Why would Papley leave if we got Daniher? That makes no sense at all. Might actually convince him to stay.

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                        • barry
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8499

                          Originally posted by Captain
                          Don't make the mistake of combining Papley with Daniher. Last year they were obviously linked as we needed to satisfy Essendon, but not this year.

                          Why would Papley leave if we got Daniher? That makes no sense at all. Might actually convince him to stay.
                          Correct. Whether paps goes or stays is irrelevant to us getting Daniher.
                          Maybe there is a long bow you could draw that daniher's salary might squeeze someone out, but I can assure you it wont be papley.

                          Papley will go if he's desperate to go to Victoria.

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                          • Syd76
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Jul 2019
                            • 200

                            What I don't understand that is if Papley does leave (which I hope he does not), why do we not organise a Dutch auction and receive the best offer out of those that are interested?

                            I'm sick and tired of players dictating the places that they want to go to.

                            He may have legitimate reasons for going back to Victoria (eg sick parent whatever) but also needs to be cognizant of the fact that it was the Swans who took a punt on him, and thus the going market rate (which is a top 5 draft pick along with one in the early teens as a minimum needs to be paid).

                            Hope this all is not lost on Papley and the Swans.

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                            • snajik
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1115

                              Imagine just how bleak 2020 could have been. No Papley, no Stephens. An injured Daniher accompanying Buddy in the coaches box sipping on hot chocolates.

                              So glad we didn't blink on that one.
                              It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
                              The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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                              • MattW
                                Veterans List
                                • May 2011
                                • 4195

                                Originally posted by snajik
                                Imagine just how bleak 2020 could have been. No Papley, no Stephens. An injured Daniher accompanying Buddy in the coaches box sipping on hot chocolates.

                                So glad we didn't blink on that one.
                                And, conversely, Essendon, egged on by the likes of Lloyd, totally botched it. We were offering overs.

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