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  • Ruck'n'Roll
    Ego alta, ergo ictus
    • Nov 2003
    • 3990

    Originally posted by dimelb
    Agree with both of the above. Kirk is the one mainly responsible for coming up with The Bloods. Enough said.
    I thought that was Stewie Maxfield?

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    • Boddo
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2017
      • 1049

      Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
      I thought that was Stewie Maxfield?
      +1

      How Sydney Swans built The Bloods culture - AFL Players

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      • Mr Magoo
        Senior Player
        • May 2008
        • 1255

        Really impossible to make a call on who is any good as a coach unless your coached by them / coached with them.

        Perception is a wonderful thing but often misleading. For all I know Laidler may be a way better coach than all of them but because we perceive him as a battler of a player we somehow believe he couldnt be as good a coach which quite frankly is rubbish. Kirky is perceived as a spiritual leader of the club and one of architects behind the bloods ethos but then he may not be as good tactically or have real foresight into the game. In any respect hard to say who should go.

        Highly likely that in any redundancy situation your first work out who you cannot do without, who you were looking for an excuse to get rid off and then it comes down to things like immediate needs, tenure and even who you genuinely like / dislike .

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        • Blood Fever
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 4050

          Originally posted by Mr Magoo
          Really impossible to make a call on who is any good as a coach unless your coached by them / coached with them.

          Perception is a wonderful thing but often misleading. For all I know Laidler may be a way better coach than all of them but because we perceive him as a battler of a player we somehow believe he couldnt be as good a coach which quite frankly is rubbish. Kirky is perceived as a spiritual leader of the club and one of architects behind the bloods ethos but then he may not be as good tactically or have real foresight into the game. In any respect hard to say who should go.

          Highly likely that in any redundancy situation your first work out who you cannot do without, who you were looking for an excuse to get rid off and then it comes down to things like immediate needs, tenure and even who you genuinely like / dislike .
          Clear sighted post Mr M

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          • dimelb
            pr. dim-melb; m not f
            • Jun 2003
            • 6889

            Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
            I thought that was Stewie Maxfield?
            Stewie played an immensely import role in his time with us, but the article doesn't actually say he came up with the phrase "The Bloods".

            I recall reading about Kirk questioning what the club had been called in the decades before the move to Sydney, and someone (sorry, I can't recall who responded using the term) said "The Bloods", and Kirky jumped on it and said it was a great phrase and that's what we ought to use.

            I apologise if I've got it wrong, but that's what I recall reading.
            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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            • Boddo
              Senior Player
              • Mar 2017
              • 1049

              How the 'Bloods' culture made Nick Davis a hero and won Sydney a flag - Jude Bolton

              Sydney Swans | Leading Teams

              We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

              “Players came and went but the message was passed on. It started with Stuart Maxfield, who was elected captain in 2003, and lived on in Kirk and Barry Hall, Jude Bolton and Leo Barry, Ben Mathews and their brethren. By the time Kieren Jack and Sam Reid and Lewis Jetta arrived at the club, the message permeated the club. They became Bloods.”

              None of this is to say Kirk was any less important than Maxfield but everything you read is Maxfield starting it and Kirk carrying the baton. IMO one is not anymore important than the other. If Maxfield started it but other players like Kirk didn’t continue it going forward it dies there n then.

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              • Markwebbos
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2016
                • 7186

                Objection! Facts have no place on RWO

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                • Ralph Dawg
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 1729

                  So Goddard reckons Daniher is almost a lock for us in 2021?

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                  • Blood Fever
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4050

                    Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                    So Goddard reckons Daniher is almost a lock for us in 2021?
                    Wouldn't know

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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                      So Goddard reckons Daniher is almost a lock for us in 2021?
                      I read that in the Hun too. I’d love a fit JD at the Swans

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                      • Blood Fever
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4050

                        Originally posted by Markwebbos
                        I read that in the Hun too. I’d love a fit JD at the Swans
                        Would leave well alone

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          Originally posted by Blood Fever
                          Would leave well alone
                          He could be the next Kurt Tippett

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                          • Blood Fever
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 4050

                            Originally posted by Markwebbos
                            He could be the next Kurt Tippett
                            Much more injury prone than even Kurt!

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                            • stevoswan
                              Veterans List
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 8559

                              Originally posted by Blood Fever
                              Would leave well alone
                              Me too....as MW hints.....Tippett mk 2.

                              Even if he gets fit, he'll relapse just when we need him most and it will be 'expensive liability' time.....and then Barry will complain about it for years. Years I tell ya!!

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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                Originally posted by stevoswan
                                Me too....as MW hints.....Tippett mk 2.

                                Even if he gets fit, he'll relapse just when we need him most and it will be 'expensive liability' time.....and then Barry will complain about it for years. Years I tell ya!!
                                I was actually one of the few here who supported tippet through the journey.
                                JD is free, so why not?

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