2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16773

    Salary cap isn't the one constraint affecting list management. List spots and senior opportunities (ie a balance between who takes for granted/expects/hopes/needs development across the list) are also factors.

    Malceski was not only offered a longer playing contract and more money, but also a promised pathway to the Suns' coaching team. He never really hit his playing straps for the Suns, with his knees causing him ongoing issues, and retired early. He wasn't pushed out of the club in the sense he wasn't offered any contract but chose a better offer. Pretty hard to see how any criticism could be aimed at the club - either at the time or with hindsight - for letting him go with their blessing.

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    • Mel_C
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 4470

      Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
      Yep in days gone by we may have collected Tuohoy, ban or no, it's hard to comprehend how that would have been possible when salary cap saw us shedding both Nanny and Mitchell at that time.


      Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
      Same again, that's the year we had to shed Mal and Membrey just to say within the cap, so how the f.... could we add Patfull to the team?
      The whole suggestion that the trade ban trashed the Swans talent acquisition plans is a disingenuous and threadbare fig leaf used to obfuscate the collateral trading damage bought about by the Buddy/Kurt gamble.
      No I don't recall this being the case. Nankervis and Membrey left for more opportunities. Malceski wanted a longer contract than what we were offering.

      Yes Mitchell was affected by the salary cap because he wanted more money than we could offer. (And the trading of Hanners and Rohan was for salary cap relief).

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      • Mel_C
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 4470

        Originally posted by Markwebbos
        That’s not how I remember it. Membrey was allowed to leave for more opportunity at the Saints and was hardly chewing up much of our cap. Mal was coming to the end of his career and was made a multi year offer the Swans opted not to match. I don’t think either was a salary cap related issue?

        Anyone else thoughts?
        Yes that's how I remember it too as per my post above.

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          Here's a potential 1st round draft pick for us, considering that we may be in the market for a tall forward who can take a turn in the ruck:

          Riley Thilthorpe
          DOB: July 7, 2002
          Height: 200.4cm
          Weight: 98.5kg
          Position: Key forward/ruck



          AFL Draft Watch: Riley Thilthorpe (West Adelaide/South Australia) - Aussie Rules Draft Central

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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            Originally posted by Ludwig
            Here's a potential 1st round draft pick for us, considering that we may be in the market for a tall forward who can take a turn in the ruck:

            Riley Thilthorpe
            DOB: July 7, 2002
            Height: 200.4cm
            Weight: 98.5kg
            Position: Key forward/ruck



            AFL Draft Watch: Riley Thilthorpe (West Adelaide/South Australia) - Aussie Rules Draft Central
            Ludwig, question, who will be the Wooden Spooner?

            That's correct, Crows will swoop on this outstanding SA talent. I'm hoping we can get in for a top rated mid before having to match for Campbell.

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            • caj23
              Senior Player
              • Aug 2003
              • 2462

              Originally posted by Ludwig
              Here's a potential 1st round draft pick for us, considering that we may be in the market for a tall forward who can take a turn in the ruck:

              Riley Thilthorpe
              DOB: July 7, 2002
              Height: 200.4cm
              Weight: 98.5kg
              Position: Key forward/ruck



              AFL Draft Watch: Riley Thilthorpe (West Adelaide/South Australia) - Aussie Rules Draft Central
              I'm pretty sure we've got another bloke already lined up for that position. He's an injury prone ex son of a gun

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              • Ruck'n'Roll
                Ego alta, ergo ictus
                • Nov 2003
                • 3990

                Originally posted by caj23
                I'm pretty sure we've got another bloke already lined up for that position. He's an injury prone ex son of a gun
                Do tell? To whom do you refer?
                Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 26 June 2020, 06:58 PM.

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                • 0918330512
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 1654

                  Originally posted by caj23
                  I'm pretty sure we've got another bloke already lined up for that position. He's an injury prone ex son of a gun
                  The player is injury prone?
                  The player is no longer the gun’s son?

                  Or you meant the player is the son of a gun, injury prone ex-Swan?

                  I’m confused and bemused

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                  • Ruck'n'Roll
                    Ego alta, ergo ictus
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 3990

                    It's probably a moot point now, but Naismith looked less mobile this week than against the Crows or in the 2's at the end of last year - even before he did his knee. And with Knoll the same age, injured and yet to play a game. And most people now recognising that Sinkers isn't a solution to our ruck problems.
                    So I think we are really going to need a ready to play ruckman, not sure we can afford to draft and wait and I suspect we may not be able to afford a starting 22 ruckman from another club.

                    So taking a deep breath, I'm suggesting . . . . Nanny(*).




                    (*) - Now before the pavlovian-pile-on starts, I'd like to make the following disclaimer: This is in no way a criticism of the club, it's recruiting, He Who Must Not Be Named, or indeed any RWOer past present or future. Just a suggested solution to a perceived problem

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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                      It's probably a moot point now, but Naismith looked less mobile this week than against the Crows or in the 2's at the end of last year - even before he did his knee. And with Knoll the same age, injured and yet to play a game. And most people now recognising that Sinkers isn't a solution to our ruck problems.
                      So I think we are really going to need a ready to play ruckman, not sure we can afford to draft and wait and I suspect we may not be able to afford a starting 22 ruckman from another club.

                      So taking a deep breath, I'm suggesting . . . . Nanny(*).




                      (*) - Now before the pavlovian-pile-on starts, I'd like to make the following disclaimer: This is in no way a criticism of the club, it's recruiting, He Who Must Not Be Named, or indeed any RWOer past present or future. Just a suggested solution to a perceived problem
                      Or that new guy at Collingwood?

                      I think it would be worth experimenting with an athletic Aliir / Amartey type and seeing if we can make it work, rather than playing Sinkers by default. It worked for the Doggies last night.

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                      • MattW
                        Veterans List
                        • May 2011
                        • 4218

                        Originally posted by Markwebbos
                        Or that new guy at Collingwood?

                        I think it would be worth experimenting with an athletic Aliir / Amartey type and seeing if we can make it work, rather than playing Sinkers by default. It worked for the Doggies last night.
                        Come on, let's not start pining for Cameron. If he was good enough, he would have made it with us.

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                        • Meg
                          Go Swannies!
                          Site Admin
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 4828

                          Originally posted by Markwebbos
                          Or that new guy at Collingwood?.
                          You mean the one who has been dropped for tonight’s match?

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                          • mattybloods
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 482

                            Braydon Preuss is now the 3rd choice ruck at Melbourne, might be worth a go and cheap

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                            • Melbourne_Blood
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2010
                              • 3312

                              Pittonet would have been a good pick up in last years trade period, I wondered why we didn’t look into him. Too much faith in Naismith returning and staying fit ( poor judgement considering his record ). He’s playing good footy for the blues apparently.( haven’t seen any of their games just from what I’ve read / heard ).

                              Anyway I think we should pursue that kind of trade in this period, find the next Mummy


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                              • Hotpotato
                                Senior Player
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 2271

                                That was astonishing what Tony Greene just did there .... wish we had him.

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