2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • rb4x
    Regular in the Side
    • Dec 2007
    • 968

    I would look at Sam Hayes at Port Adelaide who was rated the best young ruckman in his draft year. Port might not be keen though as they have let Ryder, Frampton and Howard go plus Westhoff is in his twilight years. Hayes is probably looked at as the successor to Ladhams. Had a knee injury but got back on the park last year. Has not played this year as COVID-19 has shut down the Port Adelaide magpies in the SANFL.

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    • bloodspirit
      Clubman
      • Apr 2015
      • 4448

      Originally posted by rb4x
      I would look at Sam Hayes at Port Adelaide who was rated the best young ruckman in his draft year. Port might not be keen though as they have let Ryder, Frampton and Howard go plus Westhoff is in his twilight years. Hayes is probably looked at as the successor to Ladhams. Had a knee injury but got back on the park last year. Has not played this year as COVID-19 has shut down the Port Adelaide magpies in the SANFL.
      Worthy suggestion but, like you say, I don't think Port will easily give him up. We'd have to give him some good assurances about his playing prospects and a pay rise.
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      • KTigers
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2012
        • 2499

        Did we ever show any interest in Jarrod Witts back in the day? I remember seeing him lumbering around Sydney Uni Oval #1
        as a young fella before he went to Collingwood.

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        • Ruck'n'Roll
          Ego alta, ergo ictus
          • Nov 2003
          • 3990

          Originally posted by KTigers
          Did we ever show any interest in Jarrod Witts back in the day? I remember seeing him lumbering around Sydney Uni Oval #1
          as a young fella before he went to Collingwood.
          Probably, though it was a moot point once he was the Collingwood selection during the NSW Scholarship scheme.

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          • caj23
            Senior Player
            • Aug 2003
            • 2462

            Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
            Probably, though it was a moot point once he was the Collingwood selection during the NSW Scholarship scheme.
            Had the chance when he moved to Gold Coast but probably bad timing for us

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            • caj23
              Senior Player
              • Aug 2003
              • 2462

              Devastating news for Sam Naismith with his season ending knee injury.

              Putting aside the player for a moment (as he seems like a great fella), who the hell signed him up until the end of 2021?

              At the end of 2018 when the 3 year deal was signed he'd managed 28 games in 5 seasons, with major question marks over his durability. It wouldn't have taken Nostradamus to guess that he probably wouldn't see out those 3 years injury free. We're now stuck carrying him into 2021 with a tight salary cap and if we're going to be realistic he has very little prospect of ever playing a senior game again.

              By the time 2021 is over he'll have managed 31 games over 8 seasons, that must be some kind of record. What is more disturbing is that it's is typical of our list management decisions in recent years

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              • Ruck'n'Roll
                Ego alta, ergo ictus
                • Nov 2003
                • 3990

                Originally posted by caj23
                By the time 2021 is over he'll have managed 31 games over 8 seasons, that must be some kind of record. What is more disturbing is that it's is typical of our list management decisions in recent years
                The Swans certainly aren't risk averse when it comes to list management.
                I wonder when the Swans started doing these long term contracts? Anyone know?
                GWS, GC, and we do it. Is it something the everyone in the league does, or just those clubs that feel the need to lock talent way from predatory Melbourne clubs?

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                • caj23
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 2462

                  Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                  The Swans certainly aren't risk averse when it comes to list management.
                  I wonder when the Swans started doing these long term contracts? Anyone know?
                  GWS, GC, and we do it. Is it something the everyone in the league does, or just those clubs that feel the need to lock talent way from predatory Melbourne clubs?
                  Lol who would ever poach someone with Sam’s durability?

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                  • Nico
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 11328

                    Who is the recruiting bloke we got from the Bulldogs? Supposed to be the bees knees. So we get these fringe players in on his watch. Beatson should be the one and only one.
                    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      How much are we paying him? When did we sign him?

                      Do any of you naysayers have any idea?

                      Given the ruckman merry go round I don’t think we were mad to do what we did at the time. I don’t think he’s on huge $ and I support paying players to overcome injuries sustained in the workplace.

                      Or do you think that’s wrong too?

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                      • Blood Fever
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4040

                        Originally posted by Markwebbos
                        How much are we paying him? When did we sign him?

                        Do any of you naysayers have any idea?

                        Given the ruckman merry go round I don’t think we were mad to do what we did at the time. I don’t think he’s on huge $ and I support paying players to overcome injuries sustained in the workplace.

                        Or do you think that’s wrong too?
                        Culture of blame alive and well on RWO

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6474

                          anyone keen on trying to trade in Liam Duggan or Jake Waterman?

                          Duggan to free up our left side HBF and Waterman to be that 191cm ish tall leading forward with aggression ?

                          both 22/23yrs of age......perfect window for a 3 year contract and what would we have to give up ?

                          Liam Duggan | AFL
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • 707
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6204

                            Moved up to pick 5 :-)

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                            • Ralph Dawg
                              Senior Player
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 1729

                              Any opinions on Flynn or Briggs from GWS to help our ruck issues?

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                              • Mr Magoo
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2008
                                • 1255

                                Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                                Any opinions on Flynn or Briggs from GWS to help our ruck issues?
                                Dont think GWS would be real keen to let them go with Mumford and Jacobs already in their last year or so at the club.

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