2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Ruck'n'Roll
    Ego alta, ergo ictus
    • Nov 2003
    • 3990

    Originally posted by aguy
    I was wondering the same. Gun ruckman maybe ?
    In normal circumstances it takes 3-4 years before a newly drafted Ruckman shows much, at which point they can be poached.

    They also seem to be a pretty high risk selection at the best of times and without much (or any) underage football form to go on, this year would be worse than most to try to draft a ruckman.

    On the other hand a #3 draft pick may indeed be enough to acquire an up and comer from another club, as we did to get Mumford and Jolly for example.

    FWIW I'd be very interested to see whether Ratugolea could be converted into a ruckman - a bit short perhaps but he looks quite vigorous (which I like to see in a ruckman).
    Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 12 July 2020, 12:40 PM.

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    • Ralph Dawg
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2018
      • 1729

      Harry Perryman looks the goods. Off contract, showing AA form. GWS can't keep all their players (Williams, Kelly, Cameron etc) so surely something has to give. If it's not Perryman then Hately, Caldwell, O'Halloran, Shipley, Cummings should all be looked at.

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      • longmile
        Crumber
        • Apr 2011
        • 3362

        Any word on where James Bell is at? Thought he looked okay when he played for us, showed more than Stoddart at least

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        • Snork
          On the Rookie List
          • Jul 2014
          • 45

          I honestly just do not understand how our salary cap can be so tight with so few proven quality performers on our list. In reality only Bud, Rampe, JPK, Parks, Mills and Heeney could possibly be on big dollars. Paps was signed to a longer term deal prior to his current purple patch of form, so where is the cap being spent? I really thought we would sign Preuss when he was going to leave NMFC as we have needed a proper ruckman as Sinkers is not the answer, Naismith is injured and won’t be back and fully fit until 2022 and who knows about Knoll.

          My ideal off season would see the following:

          1. Maybe a 3rd round pick to MEL for Preuss
          2. Daniher signed as a RFA
          3. Crouch signed as a RFA
          4. High draft pick, currently #2 used on gun young midfielder
          5. Remaining picks used on Campbell and Gulden
          6. Another pre season into our youngsters

          Whilst I understand Horse and others on this forum focussing on our backline, I believe we have a number of strong options in this part of the ground already on our list such as McCartin, Allir and Melican and would love to see Maibum being given and opportunity. I actually really liked what Brand offered as a stay at home FB and this could release Rampes.

          I hope that if list sizes are revised/reduced we reduce our numbers with players such as Sinkers, Thurlow, Clarke, Fox, etc and keep our kids as I can see real potential in players like Stoddart if they are given a decent run at it.

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          • bloodspirit
            Clubman
            • Apr 2015
            • 4448

            In terms of a ruckman, anyone have any thoughts about Richmond's Coleman-Jones? I heard him mentioned during the broadcast as an up and comer behind Nank, Soldo and Chol.
            All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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            • Nico
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 11329

              Ludwig is spot on with Chol. He looks immensely talented. Can't see them letting him go.
              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                Results falling our way, firming up nicely for Pick 2, draft a gun mid before we have to match Campbell - way to go!

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  Originally posted by 707
                  Results falling our way, firming up nicely for Pick 2, draft a gun mid before we have to match Campbell - way to go!
                  OMG we have officially become Carlton supporters, when losing and slipping to 17th can be referred to as “results falling our way”

                  We really slipped up beating the Crows way back in round 1, denied ourselves a chance at the spoon and possibility of priority picks.

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                  • dejavoodoo44
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 8494

                    Originally posted by Nico
                    Ludwig is spot on with Chol. He looks immensely talented. Can't see them letting him go.
                    With the red streak in his hair, I did enquire loudly from the stands, whether he was a Swans fan. I'm not sure if heard me? But hey, I think I irritated a few Richmond fans.

                    On Richmond fans, a fair few of them seemed a bit feral: even though they were in front all day. God knows what they'd be like, if they were receiving a flogging. Especially a flogging at a packed MCG.

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                    • KSAS
                      Senior Player
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 1768

                      Originally posted by Snork
                      My ideal off season would see the following:

                      1. Maybe a 3rd round pick to MEL for Preuss
                      2. Daniher signed as a RFA
                      3. Crouch signed as a RFA
                      4. High draft pick, currently #2 used on gun young midfielder
                      5. Remaining picks used on Campbell and Gulden
                      6. Another pre season into our youngsters
                      My understanding is that you're only allowed to recruit one RFA each year?

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                      • mcs
                        Travelling Swannie!!
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8149

                        Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                        With the red streak in his hair, I did enquire loudly from the stands, whether he was a Swans fan. I'm not sure if heard me? But hey, I think I irritated a few Richmond fans.

                        On Richmond fans, a fair few of them seemed a bit feral: even though they were in front all day. God knows what they'd be like, if they were receiving a flogging. Especially a flogging at a packed MCG.
                        They are amazing to watch when they get walloped. I remember a guy at a Freo - Richmond game back in 2013 I think it was. I was in Melbourne for a Swans game that evening at Docklands, but went along to that game that afternoon. Pavlich had a brilliant game and single handedly dragged Freo home. This richmond fan was close to the most feral supporter I've ever seen at the football - I can get pretty frustrated and cranky, but I'm suprised this guy didn't take a heart attack in the stands. Embarrasingly bad.

                        It was pretty awesome hearing their whining in 2017 when we kicked 8 of the last 9 or whatever it was to steal that match. They were filthy and blaming everyone else possible.
                        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                        • bloodspirit
                          Clubman
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 4448

                          Slow down, Joe: New setback puts brakes on Daniher return
                          All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                          • Blood Fever
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 4040

                            Wouldn't touch with a forty foot pole

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                            • 707
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6204

                              Originally posted by Blood Fever
                              Wouldn't touch with a forty foot pole
                              No vacancy in our medical room for Joe!

                              Not only does finishing 17th give us pick 2 but it also pushes our second rounder up the board for more Campbell points.

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                              • 0918330512
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 1654

                                Is it just me, or is Charlie “aaamm” Gardiner one of the hardest people to listen to when he does a presser?

                                Mono-toned, speaks in cliches, gives very little info. Just doesn’t have the presence, projection, articulation or charisma of, say Horse or Harley.

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                                Originally posted by Blood Fever
                                Wouldn't touch with a forty foot pole
                                All part of the ruse to get him cheap

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