2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Dosser]

We really should go after Preuss now that Melbourne have recruited Luke Jackson

Preuss is reportedly happy to pick up his pay cheque to simply play in the VFL. I don't think he is our answer.

[Cosmic Wizard]

With Ling, i say we might as well keep him for another year.

His contract is up at the end of this year, but we have sunk so much already, one more year won't hurt.

And considering the other useless sods like Thurlow we have on our list, lets give the kid a go.

Rampe is getting old, he is already 30, we need to find a replacement for him!

[Auntie.Gerald]

AFL

wouldnt we be able to out price what the giants can offer caldwell ? and then trade ?

[KSAS]

I think he was speaking of Campbell. Draft Central has Campbell at pick 6 in their latest release of draft rankings.

My bad. Thanks for the correction Mr Magoo

[aguy]

Preuss is reportedly happy to pick up his pay cheque to simply play in the VFL. I don't think he is our answer.

No vfl this year. Preuss contract is up end of this year so if he doesn’t really want to play I doubt Melbourne renews it. If he does want to play then he will need to look elsewhere

[Ruck'n'Roll]

With Ling, i say we might as well keep him for another year.
His contract is up at the end of this year, but we have sunk so much already, one more year won't hurt.
And considering the other useless sods like Thurlow we have on our list, lets give the kid a go.

Does anyone know what the list will be next year? The last I'd heard was 35 plus a single category B rookie.
If that's the case even if we simple delisted every single one of our rookies, we will still have to cut 5 from the senior list to make minimum room for 3 more draftees.
And the number of delistings increases with every rookie upgrade.

Anyone at this stage feel able to nominate?
1) Which rookies to upgrade
2) which players to cut.

FWIW with the latter question, I can't get past Thurlow and Gray (age) and (I hate saying it) Sam

I can see arguments for and against for pretty much everyone else, and the situation with the 2's won't help.

[The Big Cat]

Anyone at this stage feel able to nominate?
1) Which rookies to upgrade
2) which players to cut.

FWIW with the latter question, I can't get past Thurlow and Gray (age) and (I hate saying it) Sam

I can see arguments for and against for pretty much everyone else, and the situation with the 2's won't help.

Keep Naismith. Cut Thurlow, Gray, Squizzy, Fox, Clarke, Ronke,Bell - None of these blokes will be in our next premiership team.

[rb4x]

Does anyone know what the list will be next year? The last I'd heard was 35 plus a single category B rookie.
If that's the case even if we simple delisted every single one of our rookies, we will still have to cut 5 from the senior list to make minimum room for 3 more draftees.
And the number of delistings increases with every rookie upgrade.

Anyone at this stage feel able to nominate?
1) Which rookies to upgrade
2) which players to cut.

FWIW with the latter question, I can't get past Thurlow and Gray (age) and (I hate saying it) Sam

I can see arguments for and against for pretty much everyone else, and the situation with the 2's won't help.

I believe Gray got a three year contract so could be expensive paying him and other contracted players out as well as the unknown salary cap issues. All speculation at present.

[dazedjosh]

Does anyone know what the list will be next year? The last I'd heard was 35 plus a single category B rookie.
If that's the case even if we simple delisted every single one of our rookies, we will still have to cut 5 from the senior list to make minimum room for 3 more draftees.
And the number of delistings increases with every rookie upgrade.

Anyone at this stage feel able to nominate?
1) Which rookies to upgrade
2) which players to cut.

FWIW with the latter question, I can't get past Thurlow and Gray (age) and (I hate saying it) Sam

I can see arguments for and against for pretty much everyone else, and the situation with the 2's won't help.

Jeez it's a tough one this far out, but I'll have a crack at the delisting players who are out of contract

Thurlow, Knoll, Fox, and Foot I think are all goners.
Ronke, Bell, Maibaum, Ling, and Clarke are probably in the group labelled "need to make the most of their chances if they get them this year", otherwise I could see them being cut/re-rookied.

Knoll is a bit harsh but he didn't do much in the NEAFL last year did he? I'd rather we go for a fringe ruck somewhere else with a bit of hunger. If Preuss is happy just to pick up a paycheck then we should avoid him, but if he wants to prove himself at AFL level, he'd be my target.

[jono2707]

If clubs are forced to drastically cut list sizes, and a certain number 23 decides to (or is forced by injury to) retire, maybe given the extenuating circumstances we'd no longer have to carry his salary in our cap?

[dazedjosh]

If clubs are forced to drastically cut list sizes, and a certain number 23 decides to (or is forced by injury to) retire, maybe given the extenuating circumstances we'd no longer have to carry his salary in our cap?

I think the league would need to create some sort of exemption or waiver system that would allow us to get out of that contract. My understanding of the free agent contracts is that they have to be paid out in totality even if the player retires. Players that we trade for and draft can retire and their payouts can be negotiated by the club, but I believe free agents are locked in for that amount.

Personally I'm hopeful that Franklin will do a Goodes and have a bit of a resurgence in the winter of his career. Apparently he lost a big of weight over the summer to put less stress on his body, so maybe he needs to lose a bit more and play a bit lighter and push up on the wing and use his field kicking to get the ball inside 50. I don't know the answer but I'm hopeful that one will be found.

[Markwebbos]

If the salary cap is drastically reduced then I say all bets are off with RFA. It’s moving the goalposts.

[Auntie.Gerald]

Is the Sqiz taylor, grey recruitment looking like a waste of dollars right now ? we are sprinkling in snr players that are cast out from other clubs like Thurlow, Taylor, Grey, Menzel, Clarke etc but not getting much value so far

I dont mind the argument that if you have some senior players come on board at low contract price, it allows your young team to function at least, but gee it is hard to watch the above players run around in the red and white

For me bringing in Dyl and Warner shows how committed we are to youth but it sure is a long road to get back to a top8 at this rate last couple of years

I wish we could still attract like the HAwks and Cats a few more snr players that make a serious difference to the output of the team.......shouldnt this be mandatory in the next trade period ?

I know we are different team with a firing Bud, Naismith and Reid and u could probably include a puzzle piece that may become essential for our backline ie Brand ....... but how different are we vs the top8?

[longmile]

Is the Sqiz taylor, grey recruitment looking like a waste of dollars right now ? we are sprinkling in snr players that are cast out from other clubs like Thurlow, Taylor, Grey, Menzel, Clarke etc but not getting much value so far

I dont mind the argument that if you have some senior players come on board at low contract price, it allows your young team to function at least, but gee it is hard to watch the above players run around in the red and white

For me bringing in Dyl and Warner shows how committed we are to youth but it sure is a long road to get back to a top8 at this rate last couple of years

I wish we could still attract like the HAwks and Cats a few more snr players that make a serious difference to the output of the team.......shouldnt this be mandatory in the next trade period ?

I know we are different team with a firing Bud, Naismith and Reid and u could probably include a puzzle piece that may become essential for our backline ie Brand ....... but how different are we vs the top8?

I think Taylor is a bit hard done by. Only played 3-4 games in the team and has kicked 3 goals in one of them and looked lively in another. He's a much much better option than Ronke, I'd even have him in our best 22. Gray is worth another shot but the jury's definitely out on him, a bit disappointing really, I thought he was a good player for Port. Additionally I like Clarke and think he should be in a semi-permanent tagging role in our midfield. However I think the concern is with Kennedy, Parker and Hewett, if you throw Clarke into the mix as well it looks pretty bloody slow.

… Thurlow seems to be a dud.

[Nico]

Is the Sqiz taylor, grey recruitment looking like a waste of dollars right now ? we are sprinkling in snr players that are cast out from other clubs like Thurlow, Taylor, Grey, Menzel, Clarke etc but not getting much value so far

I dont mind the argument that if you have some senior players come on board at low contract price, it allows your young team to function at least, but gee it is hard to watch the above players run around in the red and white

For me bringing in Dyl and Warner shows how committed we are to youth but it sure is a long road to get back to a top8 at this rate last couple of years

I wish we could still attract like the HAwks and Cats a few more snr players that make a serious difference to the output of the team.......shouldnt this be mandatory in the next trade period ?

I know we are different team with a firing Bud, Naismith and Reid and u could probably include a puzzle piece that may become essential for our backline ie Brand ....... but how different are we vs the top8?

Hawks and Cats = Brown paper bags. Gary Rohan must be playing for a brown paper bag of peanuts.

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I think Taylor is a bit hard done by. Only played 3-4 games in the team and has kicked 3 goals in one of them and looked lively in another. He's a much much better option than Ronke, I'd even have him in our best 22. Gray is worth another shot but the jury's definitely out on him, a bit disappointing really, I thought he was a good player for Port. Additionally I like Clarke and think he should be in a semi-permanent tagging role in our midfield. However I think the concern is with Kennedy, Parker and Hewett, if you throw Clarke into the mix as well it looks pretty bloody slow.

… Thurlow seems to be a dud.

Gray is no Usain Bolt.