2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Markwebbos
    Veterans List
    • Jul 2016
    • 7186

    Originally posted by bloodspirit
    A more positive perspective: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/it-doesn-t-happen-by-accident-the-sydney-swans-quiet-revolution-20200821-p55o5z.html.
    Written after the Giants game and before Freogeddon

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    • bloodspirit
      Clubman
      • Apr 2015
      • 4448

      Originally posted by Markwebbos
      Written after the Giants game and before Freogeddon
      Not that one has to agree with the views expressed in the article, but are you saying we should revise whatever we think after one game?
      All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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      • Markwebbos
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2016
        • 7186

        Originally posted by bloodspirit
        Not that one has to agree with the views expressed in the article, but are you saying we should revise whatever we think after one game?
        I think the glass feels less full after the Freo game than it did after the Giants. And our youth less talented.

        The Giants game is the outlier in 2020.

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        • TheBloods
          Suspended by the MRP
          • Feb 2020
          • 2047

          Results this year don't matter so much as sorting the wheat from the chaff. With each week we're learning which young Swans are worth investing in further, and which ones aren't.

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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            Clubs must be getting very frustrated at no news on TPP & list sizes/make up.

            AFLPA have to agree to any changes to the CBA, knowing how they look after the top end players, if it's one or the other, they'll agree to list cuts which will chop the lowest rungs rather than the Dangerfield's of the comp taking a pay cut!

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            • Nico
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 11328

              With the Buddy situation the priority with our first pick has to be the best KPF available.
              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                Originally posted by Nico
                With the Buddy situation the priority with our first pick has to be the best KPF available.
                Luckily a number available this year, a rare KP draft at the top end.

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                • crackedactor 01
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Jun 2020
                  • 731

                  Originally posted by Markwebbos
                  I think the glass feels less full after the Freo game than it did after the Giants. And our youth less talented.

                  The Giants game is the outlier in 2020.
                  100% agreed. The GWS was likely a just a flash in the pan game and not a true reflection of our talent. The Fremantle game confirmed this.

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                  • SwanSand
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Aug 2020
                    • 523

                    GWS has no run and carry at the moment and they are not doing the hard stuff well too. TheIt ladder position reflects that. Fremantle in the other hand are playing a brand of footy that Swans played for many years - hard tackle, good spread and good defence. No wonder we struggled with less hardened bodies, lack of trust in each other’s game and lack of awareness of positioning and polish around the contest. But the difference between good side and an average side is never huge and a few games experience and development will make it happen.

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                    • SwanSand
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Aug 2020
                      • 523

                      We need a KPF, KPD, and 2 good midfielders to be an excellent side. Braeden Campbell and Errol gulden - at least one of them will turn out to be very good. We target a KPF this draft and then Next year trade for a midfielder (Pay overs if needed), Ruck (less important and would come cheaper through trade rather than to develop one which would take years) and a KPD (Easy to find Through trade if the team is doing well And would come cheap) to get ready for finals assault.

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                      • Blood Fever
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4040

                        Originally posted by SwanSand
                        We need a KPF, KPD, and 2 good midfielders to be an excellent side. Braeden Campbell and Errol gulden - at least one of them will turn out to be very good. We target a KPF this draft and then Next year trade for a midfielder (Pay overs if needed), Ruck (less important and would come cheaper through trade rather than to develop one which would take years) and a KPD (Easy to find Through trade if the team is doing well And would come cheap) to get ready for finals assault.
                        Breath of fresh air SS!

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                        • gazza
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 329

                          time for a list clean. l taylor,gray,clarke,ronke delist. see what we can get for alir someone might take him. 2 academy kids to take and trade for a ruckman, naismith might never return
                          forgotten 1996
                          2005 a much sweeter memory,2012 even better

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                          • Melbourne_Blood
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2010
                            • 3312

                            Originally posted by gazza
                            time for a list clean. l taylor,gray,clarke,ronke delist. see what we can get for alir someone might take him. 2 academy kids to take and trade for a ruckman, naismith might never return
                            Taylor and grey at least are under contract.


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                            • barracuda
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jun 2016
                              • 551

                              Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                              Taylor and grey at least are under contract.


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                              Unfortunately a number of players who should be cut were given longer contracts. In hindsight this was probably an error as it now means some of the promising young ones will get cut whilst we are stuck with grey and taylor

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                              • stevoswan
                                Veterans List
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 8543

                                Definitely a mistake giving Gray and Taylor two year contracts......but the club obviously thought they would offer us more than they have and believed a one year offer was not enough to initially entice them. Again, post event knowledge.....which the club (or no one for that matter) could predict. Any trade or drafting decision by any club carries risk and success is not guaranteed.

                                Seriously, only those who seriously questioned these two players recruitments from the beginning are the only one's who can criticise the decision to recruit them now.....anyone else is just conveniently hindsight whinging.

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