2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[barry]

Disagree. The players we woefully unfit and Barassi said so. They were gone after 15 minutes into the first quarter. Once they got an acceptable fitness level they started to become competitive.

Yeah, I think Buckenara has a good footy brain, and would be an ok coach. But he came from Hawthorn who had a magnificent setup of facilities and assistants, to a club which had very little. It takes a great coach to transition from thinking about game style sublte techniques to realised that the players just need to get fitter. The swans were not the place for a coach like him to succeed.

Its quite amazing how far new clubs are behind established clubs. They just dont have the loyal bunch of volunteers, or influence over various lower levels of government which gets the basics done.

[Mark26]

Buckenara in his list analysis of Carlton threw up the name of Parker as someone the Blues should enquire about. While he is under contract, Bucks suggested that Pick 7 plus Casboult to the Swans might be tempting to the Swans given our current re-build status. Thoughts please?

No way should we give up our own man of steel, Lukey the legend Parker. I'd have to change my RWO name, profile pic and find a new favourite Swans' son to cheer for.

[707]

Can people please stop posting scenarios that have JPK and/or Parker leaving - they are not so it's a waste of thought process and space in this thread!

2021 touted to be a strong draft with over looked late bloomers that should have been noticed for this years draft playing U19s next year so potentially a bigger and deeper pool of talent next year.

In a normal draft there's about 65-70 players drafted, be interesting to see, with probable smaller lists and half the draft pool with no exposed U18 form, if there's less picks used this year. Might be useful for us as point bearing picks may be discarded unused by some strong clubs.

So many permutations in the draft this strange year

[Markwebbos]

Can people please stop posting scenarios that have JPK and/or Parker leaving - they are not so it's a waste of thought process and space in this thread!

Where's the fun in that? You can't deny us our human right to speculate extravagantly prior to the trade, draft and free agency period!

[stevoswan]

Where's the fun in that? You can't deny us our human right to speculate extravagantly prior to the trade, draft and free agency period!

I get that you're sort of joking but.......we all (rightly) get angry with 'lazy' journo's doing exactly the same thing.

[Thunder Shaker]

Just wanting to get everyones opinion on Gulden (after watching a little of his footage on the wknd and past games)

If Will Gould went with Pick26 as a back to back AA and SANFL Glenelg player plus captain of SA under18's.............wouldnt you guess that Gulden would slide back into pick range 30 to 40?

I doubt that would happen. Gulden has been one of relatively few players who has had a relatively normal playing season this year and he has performed well. He's less likely to slip down the draft order than other players who have not been playing and therefore have less clear prospects. Gulden has also grown a few centimetres this year, taking him out of the "too short" list.

When I computed the draft points we needed, I guessed that he would go at 25 (and Campbell at 10), but that's likely to be a conservative estimate for Gulden.

[wolftone57]

Can people please stop posting scenarios that have JPK and/or Parker leaving - they are not so it's a waste of thought process and space in this thread!

2021 touted to be a strong draft with over looked late bloomers that should have been noticed for this years draft playing U19s next year so potentially a bigger and deeper pool of talent next year.

In a normal draft there's about 65-70 players drafted, be interesting to see, with probable smaller lists and half the draft pool with no exposed U18 form, if there's less picks used this year. Might be useful for us as point bearing picks may be discarded unused by some strong clubs.

So many permutations in the draft this strange year

It is such a pity they are reducing list sizes. This year one side used 39 players. We used all but 6 players.

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[Markwebbos]

I get that you're sort of joking but.......we all (rightly) get angry with 'lazy' journo's doing exactly the same thing.

I think there is a world of difference between a journalist writing an article with no basis in fact, and our discussing on here whether we would be prepared to trade Parker, Hewett, Buddy or whoever.

[KTigers]

Surely there is some sort of age limit for players before they can be associated with "going home" rumours.
JPK is in his mid 40s now, right? He is a big person now. Leave him alone.

[Meg]

JPK is in his mid 40s now, right?.

Wow, no wonder he has slowed down a bit!

[Ludwig]

Peter Ladhams extends contract with PA.
Preuss requests trade to GWS. I can only imagine that the Swans didn't want him that much, since we must have had more loose change in the kitty than the Giants.

The available ruckmen ranks are running low. There's Peter Wright, who has said he prefers not to be a ruckman. And a couple of Richmond players in Coleman-Jones and Chol. Maybe we've made a play for CJ and are just waiting for the season to end to go public, since Richmond are still playing finals. Otherwise, it's looking like Cal Sinclair is the man in the middle next year again.

No Ruckman, No Cry! It looks as though I'm getting my wish that the Swans play ruckless, even as I was starting to change my mind. I guess it's too late to go back. They've taken me seriously.

[Colin Hounsell]

Buckenara in his list analysis of Carlton threw up the name of Parker as someone the Blues should enquire about. While he is under contract, Bucks suggested that Pick 7 plus Casboult to the Swans might be tempting to the Swans given our current re-build status. Thoughts please?

That is about as interesting to me as the prospect of Buckenara coming back to coach at the Swans...a bad idea

[Colin Hounsell]

2021 touted to be a strong draft with over looked late bloomers that should have been noticed for this years draft playing U19s next year so potentially a bigger and deeper pool of talent next year.

In a normal draft there's about 65-70 players drafted, be interesting to see, with probable smaller lists and half the draft pool with no exposed U18 form, if there's less picks used this year. Might be useful for us as point bearing picks may be discarded unused by some strong clubs.

So many permutations in the draft this strange year

Agree with this. reckon we will work to maintain or increase our hand in the draft next year. We will have more players to replace after retirements (Kennedy, gray, Taylor at least) and more interest in trading. I can see us trading Melican and Ronke to north for a third rounder and a throw away pick so we have the points to use up on drafting Campbell and Guilden.

Hope we get Thilthorpe with pick 3 or if not Hollands.

[Auntie.Gerald]

Hollands ACL recon this last 12months ?

[gloveski]

Hollands ACL recon this last 12months ?

Be over 12 months now so he should be ready to go


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