2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Captain
    Captain of the Side
    • Feb 2004
    • 3602

    Originally posted by Markwebbos
    There's one of those wild "How Collingwood could get Jeremy Cameron" articles. Matt Rendell (ex-Pies) suggests they trade Brodie Grundy to the Swans... and suggests as his replacement, Sam Hayes at Port. I'd like to think we are pursuing Sam Hayes or similar.

    Former Pies recruiter suggests huge trade moves for his old club

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    There's one of those wild "How Collingwood could get Jeremy Cameron" articles. Matt Rendell (ex-Pies) suggests they trade Brodie Grundy to the Swans... and suggests as his replacement, Sam Hayes at Port. I'd like to think we are pursuing Sam Hayes or similar.

    Former Pies recruiter suggests huge trade moves for his old club
    I would do this in a heartbeat.

    Grundy was obviously playing injured this year and is an absolute BEAST.

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    • barracuda
      Regular in the Side
      • Jun 2016
      • 551

      Originally posted by KSAS
      Great article by Brandon Jack and insight the Academy is more than just developing talent but also lifelong friendships from crossing paths that wouldn't have happened. After reading that, I do hope we rookie List Isaiah Olsen who looks to also have the necessary skill & attitude to make it.

      Also promising to hear similar trend with the Academy girls to help form close bonds with our future AFLW team.
      I would be very surprised if he got rookied. From my intel there will only be 2 cat b spots and 4 cat a. The swans will be wanting to maximise senior list spots for high picks or swops. As a result Connor and Wicks will likely take the cat B spots, the swans will use Cat As for other listed players they want to keep. For example Zac Foote may be dropped down to Cat A but at least he stays on the list.

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      • Mr Magoo
        Senior Player
        • May 2008
        • 1255

        Originally posted by barracuda
        I would be very surprised if he got rookied. From my intel there will only be 2 cat b spots and 4 cat a. The swans will be wanting to maximise senior list spots for high picks or swops. As a result Connor and Wicks will likely take the cat B spots, the swans will use Cat As for other listed players they want to keep. For example Zac Foote may be dropped down to Cat A but at least he stays on the list.
        And if the junior development programme moves back to 19s level then he and others behind Gulden and Campbell will have another 12 months to prove themselves. Swans would be silly to rookie list in that scenario

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          Originally posted by Captain
          I would do this in a heartbeat.

          Grundy was obviously playing injured this year and is an absolute BEAST.
          But we'd have to honour the 7 year contract, which is crazy.

          Matt Rendell is saying that Collingwood stuffed up with the long contract and need to get out of it. We dont want to be the "sucker" club that gets lumbered with it.

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            Originally posted by 09183305
            And realistically they were given the additional picks to inject talent.
            Thats totally incorrect. They were given additional picks to attract player, preferably players who will stay long term, with no conditions attached.
            Trading in a mature player is more likely to stay than a draft pick.


            The big advantage GC have got this year, is that every player in the AFL has had a chance to see how nice South East Queensland is, and I think it will make them a destination club purely on location alone.

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            • neilfws
              Senior Player
              • Aug 2009
              • 1818

              Delisted: Michael Knoll, Jack Maibaum, Harry Reynolds, Brady Rowles, and Ryley Stoddart

              Swans make list changes

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              • Mark26
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2017
                • 1535

                No surprises with the five delisted players just announced: Reynolds, Maibaum, Knoll, Stoddart and Rowles.

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                • waswan
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 2047

                  Originally posted by barry
                  But we'd have to honour the 7 year contract, which is crazy.

                  Matt Rendell is saying that Collingwood stuffed up with the long contract and need to get out of it. We dont want to be the "sucker" club that gets lumbered with it.
                  Contract could be changed but he is currently guarenteed 7yrs

                  Eg, Changed to 5yrs and front ended helped by the pies or anything.
                  Absolutely worth 5yrs at 7yrs it would be a dump

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                  • The Big Cat
                    On the veteran's list
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 2349

                    Originally posted by Mark26
                    No surprises with the five delisted players just announced: Reynolds, Maibaum, Knoll, Stoddart and Rowles.
                    Only one off our main list. Surely there must be more to come unless they are moving a few to the rookie list. Armertey and Wicks are both 3rd year rookies. Where do they go?
                    Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6474

                      Swans make list changes
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • AB Swannie
                        Senior Player
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 1579

                        Originally posted by The Big Cat
                        Only one off our main list. Surely there must be more to come unless they are moving a few to the rookie list. Armertey and Wicks are both 3rd year rookies. Where do they go?
                        Agreed. It is only the beginning. We have to make at least three changes to the main list and so there are at least two more to come there. If Amartey and Wicks are retained then they both need to be placed on the main list and so another two spots must be created.

                        Trades can be a part of that but I’d say it is unlikely we are trading four players. I’m unsure in the rules regarding Naismith and whether he can be placed on a long term injury list to make room? Still a bit to play out.

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                        • 111431
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 697

                          Originally posted by AB Swannie
                          Agreed. It is only the beginning. We have to make at least three changes to the main list and so there are at least two more to come there. If Amartey and Wicks are retained then they both need to be placed on the main list and so another two spots must be created.

                          Trades can be a part of that but I’d say it is unlikely we are trading four players. I’m unsure in the rules regarding Naismith and whether he can be placed on a long term injury list to make room? Still a bit to play out.
                          and the Elijah situation

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                          • barracuda
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 551

                            Originally posted by AB Swannie
                            Agreed. It is only the beginning. We have to make at least three changes to the main list and so there are at least two more to come there. If Amartey and Wicks are retained then they both need to be placed on the main list and so another two spots must be created.

                            Trades can be a part of that but I’d say it is unlikely we are trading four players. I’m unsure in the rules regarding Naismith and whether he can be placed on a long term injury list to make room? Still a bit to play out.
                            Wicks can still be a 3rd year cat b rookie

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                            • 707
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6204

                              Probably waiting until we see whether there are any reductions to TPP and list sizes before making final changes. Next week, next week is all the AFDL has been saying for two months. Looks like the AFLPA is playing hard ball on altering the CBA.

                              And who really knows what is happening at the level below? That's looking a mess at this stage, AFL have the barrow in front of them at present!

                              Reynolds, Maibaum, Knoll, Stoddart and Rowles, no real surprises there, I think most of us would have had those names on our own delist list.
                              Last edited by 707; 16 October 2020, 11:41 AM.

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                              • crackedactor 01
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Jun 2020
                                • 731

                                Originally posted by Mark26
                                No surprises with the five delisted players just announced: Reynolds, Maibaum, Knoll, Stoddart and Rowles.
                                A little bit surprised about Stoddart but I guess he was a 50/50 chance of staying or leaving. Now that Knoll has been delisted, we really have to make getting a ruckman a priority with Sinclair and Naismith a week to week proposition.

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