2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • bloodspirit
    Clubman
    • Apr 2015
    • 4448

    Originally posted by Scottee
    I understood it was state based this year and that it was being held today.

    - - - Updated - - -
    Well I wasn't there - I'm just relying on the report I provided the link for. But either way it will be interesting to learn what there is to learn. So if anybody hears anything...
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    • Scottee
      Senior Player
      • Aug 2003
      • 1585

      Originally posted by bloodspirit
      Well I wasn't there - I'm just relying on the report I provided the link for. But either way it will be interesting to learn what there is to learn. So if anybody hears anything...
      I am fairly much in the dark too. It was scheduled for yesterday back on September 3 but I don't know whether it was changed or not. The complete absence of reporting on it might suggest it was changed.
      We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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      • Scottee
        Senior Player
        • Aug 2003
        • 1585

        Originally posted by bloodspirit
        The NSW/ACT boys draft combine was held yesterday: https://aflnswact.com.au/2020-nab-aflw-afl-national-draft-combine-nominees/. Does anyone know when the national draft combine is planned? Apparently there are 5 NSW/ACT boys invited including Braeden Campbell and Errol Gulden, along with Charlie Byrne, Joshua Green and Tom Highmore.
        I managed to find that the AFL website has shots of the NSW combine from yesterday. Seems there were about 12 being tested including Campbell and Gulden. No results though.
        We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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        • i'm-uninformed2
          Reefer Madness
          • Oct 2003
          • 4653

          In terms of a points deficit solution ...

          There’s got to be a play we can make with Adelaide using pick 22. They’ve already got 1, 8 and 20, and then whatever they get for Crouch - likely to be around 20.

          We then offer them 22, which they can bundle with others around the same mark to get another first round talent.

          They then have a surplus of later picks starting at 29, 44 and 50.

          A swap of 22 for some of those, which they aren’t likely to use anyway if they have four or five earlier picks, would get us extra points.

          And if we have to throw in a third round from next year to juice the deal, so be it.

          So something like 22 + next year’s third round for 29, 44 and 50.

          It’s fairly balanced in total, but gives us an extra 400 this year.
          'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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          • Auntie.Gerald
            Veterans List
            • Oct 2009
            • 6474

            hmmmm
            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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            • Scottee
              Senior Player
              • Aug 2003
              • 1585

              Here is a link:

              Live Blog
              We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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              • The Runner
                Regular in the Side
                • May 2017
                • 718

                Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                In terms of a points deficit solution ...

                There’s got to be a play we can make with Adelaide using pick 22. They’ve already got 1, 8 and 20, and then whatever they get for Crouch - likely to be around 20.

                We then offer them 22, which they can bundle with others around the same mark to get another first round talent.

                They then have a surplus of later picks starting at 29, 44 and 50.

                A swap of 22 for some of those, which they aren’t likely to use anyway if they have four or five earlier picks, would get us extra points.

                And if we have to throw in a third round from next year to juice the deal, so be it.

                So something like 22 + next year’s third round for 29, 44 and 50.

                It’s fairly balanced in total, but gives us an extra 400 this year.
                Adelaide will get pick 2 (that becomes 3) for Crouch. They will take Webster and Dunstan to help St Kilda ensure they can pay him the $700k minimum average over his new contract term to activate a compensation after their first round pick.
                You don't get a pick "around" anywhere. You get a pick relative to your existing draft pick. Hawthorn got pick 19 for Buddy for that reason.

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                • Scottee
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 1585

                  Have collated the attendees from the photos:

                  Charlie Byrne
                  Pierce Roseby
                  Joshua Green
                  Samuel Frost
                  Jack Driscoll
                  Lachlan McAndrew
                  Godfrey Okerenyang
                  Marc Sheather
                  Harry Grant
                  Sam Thorne
                  Nick Brewer
                  Reed Van Huisstede
                  Errol Gulden
                  Kye Pfrengle
                  Marco Rossman
                  Braeden Campbell
                  We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    Gulden looks very powerful. Despite his height, I see him as an inside mid. Not a bull, but a badger. He should win a lot of free kicks.

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                    • AB Swannie
                      Senior Player
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 1579

                      Originally posted by The Runner
                      Adelaide will get pick 2 (that becomes 3) for Crouch. They will take Webster and Dunstan to help St Kilda ensure they can pay him the $700k minimum average over his new contract term to activate a compensation after their first round pick.
                      You don't get a pick "around" anywhere. You get a pick relative to your existing draft pick. Hawthorn got pick 19 for Buddy for that reason.
                      I still can't see Adelaide getting pick two for Crouch as compensation. For starters, it was reported that the AFL emailed clubs that "they should not expect to be fully compensated for the departure of their superstar free agents." Secondly, Webster's manager has denied having any conversations with Adelaide.

                      See this link

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                      • Nico
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11332

                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        Gulden looks very powerful. Despite his height, I see him as an inside mid. Not a bull, but a badger. He should win a lot of free kicks.
                        Wow, finally our own knee dropper.
                        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                        • Mel_C
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 4470

                          I wonder how the trade process is going to work this year. Normally all clubs are located at Marvel stadium and trade negotiations between clubs happen. I doubt this will be the case this year due to the current border closures. Looks like there will be a lot of zoom meetings. Dodoro is going to be very busy!

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                          • 707
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6204

                            Originally posted by Mel_C
                            I wonder how the trade process is going to work this year. Normally all clubs are located at Marvel stadium and trade negotiations between clubs happen. I doubt this will be the case this year due to the current border closures. Looks like there will be a lot of zoom meetings. Dodoro is going to be very busy! Chronically over rating Essendon players and under valuing players he's hoping to trade in
                            Tidied that up for you Mel :-)

                            Adelaide news tonight reported Dodo has asked for a first for Fantasia, or Fanta sia as he was briefly known to BT

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                            • Thunder Shaker
                              Aut vincere aut mori
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 4166

                              Inside Trading: Free agents in limbo, Dons' first-round pick snag

                              This had an interesting little snippet regarding the Suns:

                              * Suns can list two Academy prospects without needing to draft them.
                              * This means the Suns may need to take only one live pick to the draft. (They currently hold 5, 24, 33, 70, 78, 96).
                              * They have picks 5 and 24, and may package them to move up the draft.
                              * North Melbourne (2), Sydney (3) and Hawthorn (4) were listed as possibilities.
                              * Suns could also swap second-round picks for future picks.

                              If we traded pick 3 to the Suns for 5 and 24, we would trade out a pick worth 2234 points but get back picks worth 1878 and 785 points. If this trade happened, we would move two spots down the first round but get back a valuable second-round pick.
                              "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                              • Auntie.Gerald
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6474

                                interesting TS

                                if the hawks bid on campbell at pick4 that might hurt in that we miss out on a pick3 before Campbell?
                                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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