2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Blood Relative
    Warming the Bench
    • Oct 2018
    • 155

    Originally posted by 707
    Just shows how desperate the press is for a story, make anything up to get a headline and clicks. Very sad
    But this is how the media works; sensational headlines grab a readers attention, and that exposes the reader to the adverts and the more clicks on the article, the more the advertiser pays for the add. So go write some utter crap boys.

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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
      If we can't find a suitable ruck addition for 2021 should we persist with AA and sinkers?

      If so would a potential DFA like Oscar McDonald be peanuts but a solid solution for our backline rotation ?
      AA doesn’t want to become a ruckman, wants to play as a defender.

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      • Molly dooker
        Lifer!
        • Jun 2007
        • 247

        AFL website in their latest "Sliding doors" article has us kinda linked with Mason Cox.

        What the? Could work if cheap enough.

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        • bloodspirit
          Clubman
          • Apr 2015
          • 4448

          I would prefer Coxzilla to Hickey! He has limitations but I think our marketing department might like it. And we have the smalls to play at his feet: Papley, Hayward, Wicks, Taylor etc etc.

          Also interesting to see that Isaac Smith is going to the Cats. (I suspect you will approve, AG. But then you also approved of Hawthorn's trading until it didn't work out so well for them. In any case I don't think it is an indictment on our trading strategy, as you appear to.) Geelong are loading up big time for the now bringing in Cameron, Higgins and Smith. If that's not enough to get them to the promised land (notwithstanding the loss of Ablett) then they're probably not going to get there soon.
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          • bloodspirit
            Clubman
            • Apr 2015
            • 4448

            Further to those comments about Geelong - GWS seem like the anti-Geelong. Geelong bring in the players at, or past, their prime but not many high picks. GWS get lots of prime picks, develop them and see them leave in their prime.
            All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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            • Markwebbos
              Veterans List
              • Jul 2016
              • 7186

              I don’t mind the idea of Big Cox...

              Geelong were the oldest ever GF side and might be even older next year. Certainly a different approach to building a list getting in a lot more players 30 plus.

              I think they’ll crash and burn.

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              • barry
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                Originally posted by bloodspirit
                Further to those comments about Geelong - GWS seem like the anti-Geelong. Geelong bring in the players at, or past, their prime but not many high picks. GWS get lots of prime picks, develop them and see them leave in their prime.
                Both are trying to snag a one off premiership. Neither are in there for the dynasty.
                To make a dynasty, you need to pull off a miracle draft, and then see those players mature to mid 20's together, and be able to convince them to stay together for less than market value.

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  Originally posted by barry
                  Both are trying to snag a one off premiership. Neither are in there for the dynasty.
                  To make a dynasty, you need to pull off a miracle draft, and then see those players mature to mid 20's together, and be able to convince them to stay together for less than market value.
                  Geelong have built a dynasty as an almost side. 2020 their best finals year since 2011.

                  GWS god knows what happened to them this year but it’s been suggested they now need to rebuild!

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    Jason McCartney says GWS are looking into Hogan but yet to make a decision ... so not sure it’s a fait accompli yet.

                    Although they may just be waiting until after Cameron-aggedon to make their move.

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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      See RWO favourite Barratt is, quite rightly, going after the potential funny business between Crows and Saints over Crouch. Also suggests Jesse Hogan is headed to one of the two Sydney clubs, not sure which one yet.

                      Sliding Doors: IF you're not familiar with the phrase 'salary dump' ... THEN

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                      • SwanSand
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Aug 2020
                        • 523

                        By getting players like Isaac Smith who still are OK with their skills but cost nothing, Geelong has been able to get a lot of youngsters on their list through Draft. I think they have been very astute with what they have done with their list.

                        Hawthorn did the exact opposite of Sydney. Hawthorn paid hefty price by topping up and losing access to draft and it did not work. We never tried to replace with top ups and went to the draft instead. High risk for Hawthorn turned out to be low reward. Geelong had a good list of core players to go head hunting for role players and just keep going to draft and they did very well with finding Tim Kelly ! I am hoping that our patience pays off the best amongst these three teams. ... but only time will tell.

                        I think Geelong will be better with Isaac Smith and Shaun Higgins in the team. I thought Jack Stevens was a complete waste of time for them. Ablett was good but certainly past his best. Shaun Higgins is on the decline but his best is very good and Isaac is pretty good still.
                        They still have Jordan Clarke, Charlie Constable, Cooper Stephens, etc waiting

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                        • royboy42
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2076

                          Originally posted by Molly dooker
                          AFL website in their latest "Sliding doors" article has us kinda linked with Mason Cox.

                          What the? Could work if cheap enough.
                          Didn't the maggies just sign him for three years at 550 p.a?

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                          • Molly dooker
                            Lifer!
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 247

                            Originally posted by royboy42
                            Didn't the maggies just sign him for three years at 550 p.a?
                            I believe so, but ...... "AND?" Doesn't seem to make any difference when trying to offload $ ... e.g. Treloar.

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                            • waswan
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 2047

                              Originally posted by Markwebbos
                              I don’t mind the idea of Big Cox...

                              Geelong were the oldest ever GF side and might be even older next year. Certainly a different approach to building a list getting in a lot more players 30 plus.

                              I think they’ll crash and burn.
                              The good thing about Cox is that its not Hickey.... not seeing much else in it. Hasnt had to Ruck for long being behind Grundy

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                              • waswan
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2015
                                • 2047

                                Originally posted by Markwebbos
                                I don’t mind the idea of Big Cox...

                                Geelong were the oldest ever GF side and might be even older next year. Certainly a different approach to building a list getting in a lot more players 30 plus.

                                I think they’ll crash and burn.
                                The good thing about Cox is that its not Hickey.... not seeing much else in it. Hasnt had to Ruck for long being behind Grundy

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