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  • Captain
    Captain of the Side
    • Feb 2004
    • 3602

    Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
    Well that almost guarantees we aren’t going after anybody then , DB’s hunches are nearly always very wrong.


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    He got Hanners moving correct...

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    • bloodspirit
      Clubman
      • Apr 2015
      • 4448

      This is the first time I've seen the new NGA rules explained: https://www.afl.com.au/news/523632/afl-scraps-top-20-nga-picks-new-mid-season-draft-plan.
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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
        Let's say both forwards are taken. We determine we don't really need anymore defenders or mids. I wonder if we would trade pick 3 for one of Essendons 1st rounders (?7) plus a 2nd. With that, we could get Nikolas Cox, then use the 2nd for matching, therefore not going into deficit. Or if an early pick on Campbell came, use 7 on him, 2nd rounder on a young ruck with the rest of our picks on Campbell.

        I only suggest this given our history on picking a roughie, most probably due to us being conscious of the go home factor and trying to get players who are a good cultural fit. Just feel if we used pick 3 on anyone outside the accepted top 5, it would be a bit of a waste. Better to maximise its value in other ways if that's where we go.
        This is a tactic that's both clever and risky. I like the idea in general, given we would get the type of player we want and help solve the points deficit problem. A lot depends on how KB rates the players involved, Cox and Hollands, and has some surety that no one is going to bid on Campbell before this new pick. Essendon's first pick out of 2nd round as of now is pick 48, but this could be solved, I believe. Essendon may also be looking for this type of player, given the loss of Daniher. So pretty complicated. And then, there's always Deadlock Dodo to do this deal with.

        In any case, Nicholas Cox looks the next best type of player for us if we miss out on the top 3 key forwards, and worth developing a plan for possible drafting. It's hard to know how good the KB's 'feel' is for what other teams are doing.

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        • wolftone57
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2008
          • 5835

          Originally posted by Ludwig
          This is a tactic that's both clever and risky. I like the idea in general, given we would get the type of player we want and help solve the points deficit problem. A lot depends on how KB rates the players involved, Cox and Hollands, and has some surety that no one is going to bid on Campbell before this new pick. Essendon's first pick out of 2nd round as of now is pick 48, but this could be solved, I believe. Essendon may also be looking for this type of player, given the loss of Daniher. So pretty complicated. And then, there's always Deadlock Dodo to do this deal with.

          In any case, Nicholas Cox looks the next best type of player for us if we miss out on the top 3 key forwards, and worth developing a plan for possible drafting. It's hard to know how good the KB's 'feel' is for what other teams are doing.
          I don't see how if we want to take a key forward in the draft we would miss out. The bid for Campbell will not come until after our pick. Nobody in the first 5-10 are going to risk missing out on a player because they bid on an academy player and end up having to take the academy player when the bid is not matched. This is a scenario that could happen and although he is a great player I am certain he is not genuinely in the plans of any team in the top 5.

          I see us taking our key forward at 3.

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          • Markwebbos
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
            Well that almost guarantees we aren’t going after anybody then , DB’s hunches are nearly always very wrong.


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            Former Pies recruiter saying Cox won’t be at Collingwood next year.

            Not saying that means he’s going to be at the Swans.

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            Originally posted by wolftone57
            I don't see how if we want to take a key forward in the draft we would miss out. The bid for Campbell will not come until after our pick. Nobody in the first 5-10 are going to risk missing out on a player because they bid on an academy player and end up having to take the academy player when the bid is not matched. This is a scenario that could happen and although he is a great player I am certain he is not genuinely in the plans of any team in the top 5.

            I see us taking our key forward at 3.
            If McDonald and Thilthorpe are gone, who’s our KPF?

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            • Auntie.Gerald
              Veterans List
              • Oct 2009
              • 6474

              Mason Cox's partner plays for the pies and has a contract for next season with the pies

              Will be interesting
              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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              • waswan
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2015
                • 2047

                Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                Mason Cox's partner plays for the pies and has a contract for next season with the pies

                Will be interesting
                Maybe a wife swap with Treloar

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                • stevoswan
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8545

                  Originally posted by waswan
                  Maybe a wife swap with Treloar
                  .....but then Cox would end up in Queensland!

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    Originally posted by stevoswan
                    .....but then Cox would end up in Queensland!
                    Maybe with Sam Gray would be best?

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      Originally posted by wolftone57
                      I don't see how if we want to take a key forward in the draft we would miss out. The bid for Campbell will not come until after our pick. Nobody in the first 5-10 are going to risk missing out on a player because they bid on an academy player and end up having to take the academy player when the bid is not matched. This is a scenario that could happen and although he is a great player I am certain he is not genuinely in the plans of any team in the top 5.

                      I see us taking our key forward at 3.
                      Ralph Dawg's idea was to swap down so we could pick up extra value points. If Thilthorpe and McDonald go 1 and 2, we could take the next best forward, probably Nicholas Cox, at pick 3, no doubt, but Cox is rated somewhere in the teens, so we might be able to move down the draft a bit and still get our forward. It just depends what pick we should targert, because it has to come before the Campbell bid. That's the risky part.

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                      • Ralph Dawg
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 1729

                        Originally posted by Markwebbos
                        Maybe with Sam Gray would be best?
                        You saying swap Geva Mentor with Sam Gray? I would do that swap. She's 191cm 85kg, one of the best netball key position defenders. A real competitor.

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                        • Thunder Shaker
                          Aut vincere aut mori
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 4160

                          Swans ask question of big Magpie
                          Summary:
                          * Tom Hickey (WCE) remains a trade target for Sydney
                          * Sydney has inquired after Mason Cox (Coll)
                          "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                          • 707
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6204

                            The old adage "draft the best player with your first pick" probably still applies if McDonald and Tilthorpe go before our pick. We then pick Holland and resume the Hollands's family Swans connection.

                            Reports are that we've asked about Mason Cox, probably as a fall back if Hickey doesn't get done.
                            Last edited by 707; 6 November 2020, 06:51 PM.

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                            • SwanSand
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Aug 2020
                              • 523

                              Apparently Gary Rohan has split from his wife and had a run in with Hawkins. Rumour is that he was having an affair with a trainer in the hub and some of his teammates especially Hawkins took exception to it !
                              There is more to play out in the trade period

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                              • chalbilto
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 1139

                                I hope that this rumour about Rohan is wrong as I really liked him as a player and person and my heart went out to him and his wife when they lost the twin baby.

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