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  • bloodspirit
    Clubman
    • Apr 2015
    • 4448

    Originally posted by 707
    If all the games are played in Melbourne, the eight interstate sides will be disadvantaged by not playing any games on their home ground.

    The AFL should therefore create a level playing field (is that delerious laughter I hear) and ensure no team plays on their home ground.

    So all the MCG tennants play their matches at Marvel or Kardinia Park, Marvel tennants play at MCG and Kardinia Park, Geelong play at MCG & Marvel. The interstate sides rotate between the venues.

    Only exceptions are when MCG tennants or Marvel tennants meet in which case they could both play at their home ground.

    Chances of this very fair suggestion happening?
    I think barry also suggested something like this last week.
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    • Boddo
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2017
      • 1049

      Good that it’ll be back but just a bit disappointing that it looks like NT haven’t been included because they’re fully lifting restrictions on June 5 to allow sport.

      NT will be first in Australia to lift major coronavirus restrictions and here's what will be open | SBS News

      Which would help out with families considerably. And allow possible crowds. Like I’ve repeatedly said before way better atmosphere than a soulless MCG.

      ACT also has 0 active cases so may be in the same situation as the NT a few weeks later.

      https://www.covidlive.com.au/state/act

      But very happy it’s returning.

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      • Melbourne_Blood
        Senior Player
        • May 2010
        • 3312

        Resumption of season

        Originally posted by Boddo
        Good that it’ll be back but just a bit disappointing that it looks like NT haven’t been included because they’re fully lifting restrictions on June 5 to allow sport.

        NT will be first in Australia to lift major coronavirus restrictions and here's what will be open | SBS News

        Which would help out with families considerably. And allow possible crowds. Like I’ve repeatedly said before way better atmosphere than a soulless MCG.

        ACT also has 0 active cases so may be in the same situation as the NT a few weeks later.

        106 Coronavirus Cases in ACT - COVID Live

        But very happy it’s returning.
        Does the NT have the necessary infrastructure for all 18 teams to train and play games though ? Other than the potential to ‘maybe’ have crowds allowed, and their elimination of the virus, I’m not sure it’s anywhere near being the most practical option on the table

        * assuming you meant ‘the’ hub. Should’ve clarified that I guess, suppose it’s a decent option for one of the hubs if there are to be more than one.

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        • Boddo
          Senior Player
          • Mar 2017
          • 1049

          Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
          Does the NT have the necessary infrastructure for all 18 teams to train and play games though ? Other than the potential to ‘maybe’ have crowds allowed, and their elimination of the virus, I’m not sure it’s anywhere near being the most practical option on the table

          * assuming you meant ‘the’ hub. Should’ve clarified that I guess, suppose it’s a decent option for one of the hubs if there are to be more than one.

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          Like you’ve said its a suggestion for one of the hubs. With IMO ACT another & possibly vic or Qld.

          Most likely NT & ACT would allow families, so AFL allows families on the proviso players pay for them in NT & ACT and the third because of more social restrictions AFL pays for them.

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          • Boddo
            Senior Player
            • Mar 2017
            • 1049

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            Is a possible SA, WA & NT hubs on the cards at some stage. With talk of the three states & territory being able to fly freely between those states/territory.

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            • Melbourne_Blood
              Senior Player
              • May 2010
              • 3312

              Looks like Ike the NRL still have a few kinks to be ironed out, commercial agreements still not in place with broadcasters and no new pay deal with the players as yet.

              Players threatening to refuse to re start. They still haven’t provided players with bio security details and the rules they will have to live by when the season commenced.

              Perhaps the AFL are working through these things before they go ahead and announce a return to play date ? Bloody Vic biased pussies dilly dallying around with pesky details ! Off with their heads !

              NRL news | Players to refuse training return if pay deal not reached, Neil Breen


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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                All the talk I see and read on the NRL is about pay and details but no where have I seen governments saying go ahead.

                Has the NRL been given the green light by governments to ignore social distancing rules and commence full training? Or do the NRL think they don't need it or already have it?

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                • Melbourne_Blood
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2010
                  • 3312

                  Originally posted by 707
                  All the talk I see and read on the NRL is about pay and details but no where have I seen governments saying go ahead.

                  Has the NRL been given the green light by governments to ignore social distancing rules and commence full training? Or do the NRL think they don't need it or already have it?
                  Unsure, last I read they believed they had despite NSW government disagreeing.

                  NRL claims approval to resume season despite NSW government's contrary stance | NRL | The Guardian


                  Also I haven’t seen the plan in terms of where games are to be played, use of hubs etc. yet .

                  May have missed it, anyone know if that’s been announced yet?


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                  • Boddo
                    Senior Player
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 1049

                    They’re basically in the same situation in regards to Covid-19 except the NRL has a date set to start and finish as I’ve posted previously. And have made it public.

                    Id expect after the national cabinet meeting you’ll hear full details in regards to actual hub locations, games venues/date/time and the plan after the first initial hub. For both codes.

                    I wouldn’t say the AFL are dragging their heals I’d say they’re just more quiet on their proposal. Plus maybe holding out to see if Victoria allows a compromise in a hub there in that family could stay at home as it appears the main complaints in regards to being away from families comes from Victoria. The NRL understandably have more to lose as they’re less financial so have to sound more pro active. It’s a public relations game atm.

                    The spanner in the works for the AFL is the possibility of NT/WA/SA allowing flights between these three states & territory at some stage, as per link I previously provided, as the AFL will see this as maybe a better 2 phase hub solution if it happens earlier enough.

                    As for the vic bias thing. In regards to the AFL it’s there for all to see and your hearing it publicly now. As said by Pavlich on AFL tonight “advantage, let’s talk about Richmond’s home run into finals, Collingwood’s, grand final at the MCG” in regards to WA teams being allowed to train.

                    BTW I lived in Melbourne at one stage and loved the place. Have no hate for the place whatsoever. Has it’s great points and bad points just like every other city.

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                    • barry
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8499

                      Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                      Unsure, last I read they believed they had despite NSW government disagreeing.

                      NRL claims approval to resume season despite NSW government's contrary stance | NRL | The Guardian


                      Also I haven’t seen the plan in terms of where games are to be played, use of hubs etc. yet .

                      May have missed it, anyone know if that’s been announced yet?
                      You are sounding like an AFL apologist, cherry picking anti-NRL articles to push some barrow.

                      When both comps start, it will be largely thanks to the NRL (Vlandy's) drive and determination leading they way, finding a way. Without them, we wouldnt see AFL at all this year.
                      No doubt he is ruffling a few feathers, and everyone is scrambling for whats left of the pie.

                      Credit, where credit's due.

                      Think of the scenario's you actually want to happen. For me in order of preference:

                      - AFL starts ahead of NRL. Massive opportunity to tap into sport-starved fans with little else to do. Disappointing that this option is not even remotely possible.
                      - NRL,AFL start at the same time. As long as one doesnt hold up the other as that fool Whatley suggested. Get sport back on the TV's to see us through the rest of iso.
                      - NRL starts ahead of AFL. At least there will be some sport to watch. I dont mind NRL. Would normally only flick through telecasts, but there is nothing on TV better at the moment. Would stay for the whole game.
                      - Neither start. Unthinkable.
                      Last edited by barry; 1 May 2020, 09:44 AM.

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                      • Blood Fever
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4040

                        Originally posted by Boddo
                        They’re basically in the same situation in regards to Covid-19 except the NRL has a date set to start and finish as I’ve posted previously. And have made it public.

                        Id expect after the national cabinet meeting you’ll hear full details in regards to actual hub locations, games venues/date/time and the plan after the first initial hub. For both codes.

                        I wouldn’t say the AFL are dragging their heals I’d say they’re just more quiet on their proposal. Plus maybe holding out to see if Victoria allows a compromise in a hub there in that family could stay at home as it appears the main complaints in regards to being away from families comes from Victoria. The NRL understandably have more to lose as they’re less financial so have to sound more pro active. It’s a public relations game atm.

                        The spanner in the works for the AFL is the possibility of NT/WA/SA allowing flights between these three states & territory at some stage, as per link I previously provided, as the AFL will see this as maybe a better 2 phase hub solution if it happens earlier enough.

                        As for the vic bias thing. In regards to the AFL it’s there for all to see and your hearing it publicly now. As said by Pavlich on AFL tonight “advantage, let’s talk about Richmond’s home run into finals, Collingwood’s, grand final at the MCG” in regards to WA teams being allowed to train.

                        BTW I lived in Melbourne at one stage and loved the place. Have no hate for the place whatsoever. Has it’s great points and bad points just like every other city.
                        Live in Melbourne and have no problem with the city but love Pavlich's comments. Cone of silence on the subject in Melbourne and its footy media. At the same time, it is laughable to put the NRL on a pedestal or think they're superior. Has been an embarrassing soap opera for years. I do like watching the game, though- better than union.

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                        • Melbourne_Blood
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2010
                          • 3312

                          Originally posted by Boddo
                          They’re basically in the same situation in regards to Covid-19 except the NRL has a date set to start and finish as I’ve posted previously. And have made it public.

                          Id expect after the national cabinet meeting you’ll hear full details in regards to actual hub locations, games venues/date/time and the plan after the first initial hub. For both codes.

                          I wouldn’t say the AFL are dragging their heals I’d say they’re just more quiet on their proposal. Plus maybe holding out to see if Victoria allows a compromise in a hub there in that family could stay at home as it appears the main complaints in regards to being away from families comes from Victoria. The NRL understandably have more to lose as they’re less financial so have to sound more pro active. It’s a public relations game atm.

                          The spanner in the works for the AFL is the possibility of NT/WA/SA allowing flights between these three states & territory at some stage, as per link I previously provided, as the AFL will see this as maybe a better 2 phase hub solution if it happens earlier enough.

                          As for the vic bias thing. In regards to the AFL it’s there for all to see and your hearing it publicly now. As said by Pavlich on AFL tonight “advantage, let’s talk about Richmond’s home run into finals, Collingwood’s, grand final at the MCG” in regards to WA teams being allowed to train.

                          BTW I lived in Melbourne at one stage and loved the place. Have no hate for the place whatsoever. Has it’s great points and bad points just like every other city.
                          I don’t doubt there is a Vic bias mate, my comment was more a reference to the amount of time it has been mentioned on here in the past two weeks. The comment in general was more so directed at Barry who has apparently taken on a job with the NRL recently.


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                          • barry
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8499

                            Originally posted by Blood Fever
                            At the same time, it is laughable to put the NRL on a pedestal or think they're superior. Has been an embarrassing soap opera for years. I do like watching the game, though- better than union.
                            No one is.
                            Many of us, and many in the industry, are saying they are handling the covid-19 crisis better.
                            Perhaps because they are so used to dealing with crisis's

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                            Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                            I don’t doubt there is a Vic bias mate, my comment was more a reference to the amount of time it has been mentioned on here in the past two weeks. The comment in general was more so directed at Barry who has apparently taken on a job with the NRL recently.
                            If you want to take swipes at individuals on here such as me, dont be a whimp. call it out directly.

                            Heaven forbid you cant talk about a topic without being accused of "taken on a job with the NRL". Are you still in kindergarten ?

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                            • Boddo
                              Senior Player
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 1049

                              Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                              I don’t doubt there is a Vic bias mate, my comment was more a reference to the amount of time it has been mentioned on here in the past two weeks. The comment in general was more so directed at Barry who has apparently taken on a job with the NRL recently.


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                              It’s getting mentioned a lot due to the constant talk in regards to Vic being a possible location for hubs when every bit of data points towards it being held in other places. Not to mention the CMO & premier of Victoria having the strictest restrictions.

                              It makes no sense to even consider Vic due to the last weeks figures there

                              1,364 Coronavirus Cases in Victoria - COVID Live

                              New cases everyday except one in the last week, has more community transmission cases than a week ago & active cases are not stabilising.

                              The other thing is it keeps getting mentioned due to the thought that say Richmond will play every game at the MCG as an example, Geelong every game at kardinia park etc

                              People have seen the bias constantly over the years and even by your own admission it definitely exists so of course they will talk about it.
                              Last edited by Boddo; 1 May 2020, 10:13 AM.

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                              • Melbourne_Blood
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2010
                                • 3312

                                Originally posted by barry
                                No one is.
                                Many of us, and many in the industry, are saying they are handling the covid-19 crisis better.
                                Perhaps because they are so used to dealing with crisis's

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                                If you want to take swipes at individuals on here such as me, dont be a whimp. call it out directly.

                                Heaven forbid you cant talk about a topic without being accused of "taken on a job with the NRL". Are you still in kindergarten ?
                                there’s a big difference between talking about a topic and ranting on about it like a broken record every chance you get. I can’t wait until footy returns just so we can get back to having a discussion about the footy, with many contributors on here posting , rather than the Barry show we’ve been enduring the past month. It’s akin to Trump’s Covid-19 press briefings!


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