Covid 19 and footy - season (suspended) now resumed

[Blood Fever]

I don’t disagree at all about the media missing the mark, or the advantage side of it being played in Vic, that is 100% true.


What I will say though is How do they ( AFL) announce when they are going to recommence the season until their is an across the board consensus, Australia wide, on what is and isn’t allowed ?

Particularly when 10 of the teams are based in Victoria . I just can’t understand why it’s so hard for people to comprehend that. We’re in a pandemic, different States and territories are in different stages of it. More than half the teams are based in a state that is particularly strict with its restrictions Whether we like it or not that is the reality .

Why would the AFL promise something they may not be able to deliver ? Perhaps if you’re desperate, you do that. If you’re not, you play the long game and you work on your plan, and Reveal the plan when all the cards are on the table.

Maybe it is all a ploy for games to be played in Vic for the advantage of the Vic teams.

Or Maybe it’s a slightly more patient and pragmatic approach being taken by a business that is not in the dire financial situation that it’s main competitor is in. I guess we will find out in ( hopefully ) a weeks time !

-MB ( AFL apologist )


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There is no doubt that the game is skewed unfairly in the Victorian club's favour.

There is also no doubt that, in this incredibly difficult and dangerous environment, that the AFL's approach is preferable to the gung ho approach of a more desperate NRL. We have done incredibly well in comparison to overseas but if we become too complacent, it could still get very nasty.

[Melbourne_Blood]

There is no doubt that the game is skewed unfairly in the Victorian club's favour.

There is also no doubt that, in this incredibly difficult and dangerous environment, that the AFL's approach is preferable to the gung ho approach of a more desperate NRL. We have done incredibly well in comparison to overseas but if we become too complacent, it could still get very nasty.

100% .


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[Markwebbos]

I don’t understand why playing in vic is an advantage to the vic clubs.

[707]

Let's see if NRL is back to full training next week or whether it's no contact in groups of 10 max because I keep hearing some commentators suggesting the former and some commentators suggesting the latter.

It does seem that Victoria is likely to be tougher than other states which is a problem when 55% of your teams are based there. Queensland seems to be the place to be, weather wise too :-)

CEO's and AFL meeting today to agree on a way forward. You can imagine a meeting of that group, Eddie Maguire would do half the talking and of course always be right!

[stevoswan]

NRL = climate deniers. I've heard it all. There really are some unhinged people on here.

Seriously Barry.....that's your conclusion from my post? Wow....that says a lot. *scratching my head in utter disbelief!* I guess it sheds some light on how people vote for nutters like Trump. Keep those thought bubbles coming Baz. Sheese!

[Boddo]

I don’t understand why playing in vic is an advantage to the vic clubs.

It’s not if done correctly. If they have exactly the same setup as non vic clubs and they have neutral games ie Richmond/Collingwood/Hawthorn playing games at kardinia park, princes park. Moorabbin etc yes it’s fair.

But the way the competition has regularly skewed in favour of the larger vic clubs, a run into finals of never leaving Victoria, people outside Victoria don’t trust the AFL to do this in a fair and neutral way. Another Example: they try to keep spinning this BS that the MCG is neutral on GF day. It’s not and never will be. Call it for what it is an advantage to MCG tenant clubs.

Mathew Pavlich basically called it out on AFL Tonight.

My opinion has always been that Victorian data does not show the improvement that other states have shown on a daily basis.

6,779 Coronavirus Cases and 93 Deaths in Australia - COVID Live

People keep talking about how great it is for the community but with the restrictions in Victoria a hub flys in the face of the issues in Victoria.

It’s why I haven’t talked down the SEQ hub as their figures show a regular improvement. active cases 98 to 63 in a week, A week of stabilising community transmission, stabilisation of new cases.

Victoria’s draconian restrictions reflect their data. Which as people keep saying should reflect the restrictions they have which in turn should mean atm they shouldn’t have a hub.

If they were in the situation SA are in my honest opinion is they should have one hub based in Vic. With everything as neutral as possible.

[Boddo]

Another disadvantage that appears to not have anyone talking about is if they were able to fly around the country under exemptions, as suggested by several media outlets, how much of an advantage this could end up being to any side that has crowd restrictions lifted before other states.

What happens when SA get to the point of what the NT are at. Possible crowds. You might have a situation where say North Melbourne or GWS are not allowed crowds thus reducing a normal advantage and Port allowed to have crowds giving them a bigger advantage than having an empty stadium.

Are the AFL going to not allow crowds in every stadium until every state allows it?

[Boddo]

Looks like end of October GF.

“The AFL’s chief executive, Gillon McLachlan, has set a target of 31 October to complete the 2020 premiership season.”

Coronavirus Australia live news: two more staff members at Newmarch House test positive – latest updates | World news | The Guardian

And almost virtually confirmed a SEQ hub as the Queensland Government have given them permission to FIFO.

Oh in a side note for Tom Morris, on AFL Tonight, FIFO is not a new acronym. It’s been around for a long time.

[707]

Looks like end of October GF.

“The AFL’s chief executive, Gillon McLachlan, has set a target of 31 October to complete the 2020 premiership season.”

Coronavirus Australia live news: two more staff members at Newmarch House test positive – latest updates | World news | The Guardian

And almost virtually confirmed a SEQ hub as the Queensland Government have given them permission to FIFO.

Oh in a side note for Tom Morris, on AFL Tonight, FIFO is not a new acronym. It’s been around for a long time.

I thought the same thing, Tom Morris leads a sheltered life, FIFO has been around for at least 12-15 years, I was referred to as a FIFO around 2007.

Hubs are out, unless the Vic guvment won't allow full training in time for the season to recommence at a suitable time in which case, shock, horror, Vic clubs may need to go to an interstate hub until Vic relaxes.

[Boddo]

I thought the same thing, Tom Morris leads a sheltered life, FIFO has been around for at least 12-15 years, I was referred to as a FIFO around 2007.

Hubs are out, unless the Vic guvment won't allow full training in time for the season to recommence at a suitable time in which case, shock, horror, Vic clubs may need to go to an interstate hub until Vic relaxes.

Bit more negotiations imo

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theage.com.au/sport/afl/wa-hub-hangs-in-balance-as-afl-eyes-partner-to-get-2020-season-rolling-20200501-p54p4z.html

Jay Clark Says The WA Clubs May Be The Only Teams That Have To Play Out Of A Hub | Triple M


Tom Morris wouldn’t know his @...from his elbow when it came to anything outside the Melbourne cbd

[barry]

I recommend you try and catch today's edition of offsiders on ABC view. Gives a good cross code discussion on it. Caro comes across as an AFL apologist say Gill will do this, and will do that, while vlandys has just gone ahead and done them already.

Anyway, NSW teams can train from Thursday. Swans, giants??
And Victoria block Melbourne storms request to train, so they are locating in Albury.

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[Blood Fever]

Seriously Barry.....that's your conclusion from my post? Wow....that says a lot. *scratching my head in utter disbelief!* I guess it sheds some light on how people vote for nutters like Trump. Keep those thought bubbles coming Baz. Sheese!

Why would you expect anything different SOS? Don't expect any mea culpa. Lost cause.

[Boddo]

I recommend you try and catch today's edition of offsiders on ABC view. Gives a good cross code discussion on it. Caro comes across as an AFL apologist say Gill will do this, and will do that, while vlandys has just gone ahead and done them already.

Anyway, NSW teams can train from Thursday. Swans, giants??
And Victoria block Melbourne storms request to train, so they are locating in Albury.

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ABC iview

In a round a bout way to defend the AFL is understandable if you’ve got the caravan firmly hooked onto Victoria.

They’re waiting patiently for the situation to ease there in the hope restrictions could be lifted to save money not having hubs. Nothing to do with health and everything to do with money.

The problem is Victoria is not stabilising at all. As shown by these figures

6,799 Coronavirus Cases and 94 Deaths in Australia - COVID Live


If Storm continually get blocked to train you can forget this idea of a FIFO season because Victorian based clubs will not be able to train.

Maybe Cotch n the boys should have cried to the Vic health authorities instead of the AFL. I’d almost expect a few WCE & Freo players rolling on the floor in laughter now in regards to the proposed hubs.

Maybe the remote dream that Melbourne based supporters of AFL have of being able to attend a GF is slowly disappearing. If it happens I’d say good, best thing to ever happen in a while. Now they might get to feel how the Rest of Australia feel about GF week.

[Boddo]

Another thing why would you try to name hubs as High Performance Village?

HPV

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/human-papillomavirus-(hpv)-and-cervical-cancer

[707]

I recommend you try and catch today's edition of offsiders on ABC view. Gives a good cross code discussion on it. Caro comes across as an AFL apologist say Gill will do this, and will do that, while vlandys has just gone ahead and done them already.

Anyway, NSW teams can train from Thursday. Swans, giants??
And Victoria block Melbourne storms request to train, so they are locating in Albury.

Well that's a spanner in the works, if Storm can't train the ten Vic sides can't train either. Training won't resume for the other sides if Vic sides are banned from training.

So looks like eight non Vic teams can train in bigger numbers, now up to the Vic clubs and players to get out of their Melbourne comfort zones.