Covid 19 and footy - season (suspended) now resumed

[Boddo]

Statistically our record since the end of the 1981 season is marginally better. We have an all time win/loss ratio of 27% at that @@@@ty little ground since footy began. Since 1981, as Sydney this is better with 11 wins from 36 games. giving a win/loss ratio of slightly better than 30%. Of those 11 wins 3 were against very poor Fitzroy teams and the last 3 times we played there were against Carlton teams that were decimated via penalties from their salary cap rorting, so recency bias may play a part in the thinking that we seemed to play well there.

My memory of this ground was always walking away after losing. Best memory of winning a game was beating Carlton in 96, and we sang Cheer, Cheer in the social club after the game. Carlton social club members were far from happy that we had got entry to their social club and even more upset that we were celebrating. Thank god for security that stood between us and the more vocal of who were expressing their displeasure.

Source of the stats https://afltables.com

My apologies. I’ve always had in my head we’ve played well there ????

[Boddo]

We have a great record at Marvel in recent times although the clubs we have played there haven't been that strong.

I threw up princes park due to I imagine if the AFL goes down the one hub path I can’t imagine the turf at either docklands or MCG surviving 9 games a week. You only have to look at the issues with the turf in a normal season. MCG a maybe but Docklands imo a definite no chance. After 2 weeks it’d be a mess.

[barry]

Practically speaking , and removing all bias, if all 18 teams are going to be housed in one hub , Victoria is obviously the place to do it. More than half the teams are already based there, and the resources and facilities for Footy ( both training and match play) are far greater in numbers here than anywhere else in the country. That’s the reality. I could care less where it is, it’s not like we get to attend anyway. They could play it in NZ for all I care.

Bit puzzled why you Barry would be so keen to have it held in Sydney anyway, other than some sort of strange badge of honour that NSW managed to pinch something from Victoria. Football games, that no one can attend. Awesome stuff, Go team !


Anyway , Even Freo’s coach agrees about the Vic hub ( Assuming it is one Hub for all teams )

It’s exactly the same with NRL, If there is to be one single hub, NSW is the obvious state for that to take place.


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Im not for or against any hub location, as long as hubs go ahead. It just didnt seem like Melbourne had the natural infrastructure of sporting precincts like Sydney has, but I couldnt see NRL and AFL sharing a location. {Although, in the interest of combining resources and saving money.... maybe }

And I think deep down we know they will find a way to favour vic clubs somehow. (Richmond only play at MCG, etc).

I would give it to the state or region which has the most progressive attitude to covid containment. Its a pity sweden is in the wrong timezone.

[bloodspirit]

Legally the AFL can’t force them not to train. If a state allows it they can, the AFL don’t have any legal jurisdiction that says a person cannot go about their day to day activities lawfully in that state. My advice is don’t listen to the AFL women’s day shows like Assified.

Well actually the AFL can. They are our 100% owner. Everything we do is at their pleasure. Same for GWS. In both cases the AFL is free to give us whatever directions they like and if we don't like it, they can replace our board and then our CEO. Of course they would not want to be so heavy handed. But they don't need to be. We know the score. We can make some private representations and then, if they fail, that's pretty much the end of the story and we just have to fall into line.

[barry]

If they do you docklands, MCG and Princess Park as the hub, then I propose that all non-vic sides have the MCG as their base and play at least 17 games there, and other melbourne teams share princess park and docklands.

This will no effect crowds (there are none), and give them a great chance to truely understand the ground like the victorian tenants do.

[bloodspirit]

I suspect 16 on field, reduced total list and a reduced salary cap will be considered as a package for 2021 onwards.

I agree.

Practically speaking , and removing all bias, if all 18 teams are going to be housed in one hub , Victoria is obviously the place to do it. More than half the teams are already based there, and the resources and facilities for Footy ( both training and match play) are far greater in numbers here than anywhere else in the country. That’s the reality. I could care less where it is, it’s not like we get to attend anyway. They could play it in NZ for all I care.

Bit puzzled why you Barry would be so keen to have it held in Sydney anyway, other than some sort of strange badge of honour that NSW managed to pinch something from Victoria. Football games, that no one can attend. Awesome stuff, Go team !

This makes sense.

I think Sydney/NSW only gets a look in as a 'hub' if they decide to have more than one 'hub'. It seems that Victoria and NSW may be the only practical options to have hubs if the other states have closed their borders. Victoria is the obvious one if there is only one hub for the reasons you have given Melbourne_Blood.

Tom Harley's reasons for promoting Sydney as a hub were two: one was to build game awareness in NSW and I forget the other one - might have been to help the players because they can be based in their home environment (not sure if this depends on whether local players can stay at their own homes or not).

If they do you docklands, MCG and Princess Park as the hub, then I propose that all non-vic sides have the MCG as their base and play at least 17 games there, and other melbourne teams share princess park and docklands.

This will no effect crowds (there are none), and give them a great chance to truely understand the ground like the victorian tenants do.

This suggestion seems a little 'out there' but I kind of like it!

[Melbourne_Blood]

Looks like ‘incompetent’ AFL are delaying the announcement re: resumption of season until May 11, when the national cabinet will announce their review of social distancing measures.

What a rabble! Surely you just announce a date Willy Nilly without factoring in relevant advice from the powers that be ? [emoji6]


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[stevoswan]

Controversial opinion but I'm a big fan of the 16 on the field rule and have been for 5 or so years now. As much as I love footy, my one gripe is with how congested and messy it can become, which only seems to support my non-AFL supporting friends view that "AFL is just seagulls fighting for a chip". And while this can be exciting I think 16 on the field will dramatically increase the watch-ability of AFL. 18 on the field was designed for a time where players where less fit and professional and didn't have the durability to cover the KMs modern players seems too. About 80% of players seem to be on-ballers these days, and while the 6-6-6 rule has fixed this a little, I do think ruck-rovers and rovers are a bit redundant with everyone around the footy. Also with the addition of the two new teams I do think list talent overall has dropped, so this could go to combatting that too...

One question though: how does the AFL envisage the 16 a side working with the new 6-6-6 rule?

I used to watch the 16 a side VFA back in the day (no wings) it was good open footy and with basically a 6-4-6 set up, centre clearances were uncluttered and general play more open and dynamic. Ignoring the fact that they weren't quite as talented as the then VFL players and spent a lot of the game trying to kill each other, it was an entertaining brand of footy.????

[barry]

Baz you might want to check the latest on the mighty NRL’s plans to restart, their main broadcast partner has hit the brakes on it . That amazing new broadcast deal you mentioned apparently hasn’t quite been finalised yet ....

PS- the source is a Sydney paper, not a VIc Melbourne bubble one .
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This post didn't age well. Lol.

[Melbourne_Blood]

This post didn't age well. Lol.

How so , it was true when I posted it ?


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[Markwebbos]

If they do you docklands, MCG and Princess Park as the hub, then I propose that all non-vic sides have the MCG as their base and play at least 17 games there, and other melbourne teams share princess park and docklands.

This will no effect crowds (there are none), and give them a great chance to truely understand the ground like the victorian tenants do.

For once Barry I agree with you! Let’s play all our games at the MCG

[barry]

How so , it was true when I posted it ?


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Just step back and have a think about what you are posting.

[707]

SA Premier on telly tonight basically killed the idea of an AFL hub in SA so cross that off.

[Bloods05]

Just step back and have a think about what you are posting.

Now that's funny!

[barry]

SA Premier on telly tonight basically killed the idea of an AFL hub in SA so cross that off.

Worst kept secret in Australia that the AFL has chosen Melbourne as the hub, through self interest, and just paying lip service to the "exhaustive Australia wide search" for hub locations.
I'm not sure why Harley is so vocal about NSW and in particular the SCG as the eastern suburbs are a covid -19 hot spot.