They got a number of frees for us holding at stoppages. We got pinged early but didn't learn from it. Ruckmen did it as did taggers. I don't reckon the umpiring made any difference. I can't recall Carlton getting a free close to goal. Cripps kicked his goal from 50. In the rooms after the game you could see Longmire giving it to them. Yep, when you are 39 points in front you should never lose. Again centre clearance work lost it for us.
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In the role he is playing currently, I agree - but I do think he still has a huge role to play over the next couple of season. Bolton was slower then me by the time he finished (and I'm pretty slow) hahaha but he still contributed right till the end - including some time in the midfield, but increasingly from up forward too.Problem is he is too slow. Florent should never have hand balled to him. He was around on his left foot and should have kicked it forward, but again he makes a very poor disposal decision. I don't get why Kennedy is always at centre bounces. They got back into the game in the 2nd quarter with 3 clean centre clearances for goals. 11 to 6 centre clearances in Carlton's favour and ours were rubbish. Puts so much pressure on our backs but also gives very poor feed to our forwards.
Also, on a wet day your forwards should play in front but our blokes appeared to always be behind.
Kennedy might just find a new lease of life if we can develop the next gen midfield to allow him to become a 3rd or 4th string midfielder as well. We really need to find a new bull though to allow that to happen, to be in there alongside Parker and Rowbottom."You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."Comment
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We were getting smashed out of the middle in the last half of the 2nd qtr because Sinclair offers us nothing, so Longmire has to swing Aliir into the ruck and put (or hide) Sinclair down forward, weakening our backline and throwing our fwd line out of whack. Sinclair became the focal point in attack, why I don't know and McLean and Reid were now lost in the fwd line. Sinclair is a total liability, he's not a ruckman and is not a forward, there is no position for him in the team.I'm generally positive given who we have out, who we are getting games into, and the experience of games like this. There's a number of dudes in that team who won't be in our best 22 next year and the younger ones who will are going ok.
But FFS, no more Sinclair - please! Dude's a lumbering free kick against. When he gets it, it's a turnover. What's the @@@@ing point. He gets beaten in the air and around the ground every week. Start Aliir in there or play Amartey. Man.Comment
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Chokes generally happen faster than what we saw tonight. This was more like slow-motion asphyxiation.Comment
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Again, my complaint is not around those frees Nico - though there were some laughable decisions thrown along the way both ways. Its the amount (and this is a general complaint) of frees that should be there that aren't given - our style of footy is punished badly by that approach which dominates the game now of anything 'goes' in terms of incorrect disposals and good tackles not being rewarded. I felt the umpires had a serious role in getting them back into the game in the second quarter with those late few goals - at least 2 of them I remember had dreadful calls in the lead up to them.They got a number of frees for us holding at stoppages. We got pinged early but didn't learn from it. Ruckmen did it as did taggers. I don't reckon the umpiring made any difference. I can't recall Carlton getting a free close to goal. Cripps kicked his goal from 50. In the rooms after the game you could see Longmire giving it to them. Yep, when you are 39 points in front you should never lose. Again centre clearance work lost it for us.
But you are right, you shouldn't lose from that far in front, and our centre clearance work was shocking in the 2nd half. But I don't think we helped ourselves in terms of going in unchanged too - given how leggy we got in the third, it was amazing we were still in it up till the end. A decent side would of probably done us by 4 or 5 goals.
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Bit before my time, but it sounds like they were arseholes that day too.
Just @@@@ carlton.... hope they never win another flag, along with the rest of the teams
"You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."Comment
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I agree about the umpires and there were two incidents that struck me. The first was a mark taken by a Carlton well inside their forward 50 and not given; the second was a holding gimmee to us which should have gone the other way. And overall after the first quarter Carlton handled the ball much more constructively whether kicking or running it out of the melee.They got a number of frees for us holding at stoppages. We got pinged early but didn't learn from it. Ruckmen did it as did taggers. I don't reckon the umpiring made any difference. I can't recall Carlton getting a free close to goal. Cripps kicked his goal from 50. In the rooms after the game you could see Longmire giving it to them. Yep, when you are 39 points in front you should never lose. Again centre clearance work lost it for us.
Throwing is a real issue. Either we join in or the umps clamp down: we need to practise on it.He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)Comment
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I know the style of games were different back then and it was us chasing but when we had Tony Lockett I never used to doubt the Swans unless it was more than a goal a minute against us required to win. I seem to remember we won a few from almost that far back . Maybe the footy gods are squaring the ledger ?Comment
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As per Wikipedia
In sports, choking is the failure of a sportsperson or team in a game in a situation where maintaining their performance is highly important. This can occur in a game or tournament that they are strongly favored to win, or in an instance where they have a large lead that they squander in the late stages of the event
So in this case we weren’t heavily favoured and we didn’t have a large lead late in the game soooooo maybe they just started well and couldn’t go with it ? Or Carlton played poorly initially?
Just maybe it wasn’t really a choke simply just being beaten?Comment
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I remember our darkest days in the 90s when it was touch and go whether our club would survive. I would wake up in the morning and turn on the radio to hear if my club still existed. In those dark days, Carlton was waiting for us to die and was making plans to move into the Sydney market after we'd become extinct. It's a club with no morals, no integrity. I, too, am loving they're extended stretch of mediocrity. Long may it continue!I have a long memory. Given our history, I am unlikely to live long enough to see us win another three flags (god I hope I do - just seeing 2 makes me so lucky already) - but if I do, I wouldn't be unhappy if one was in a smashing of the wees and poos, another in a umpire assisted thrashing of the fairypuppies, and another in which we drub the scum that is carlton. Can not stand them or their fans - long may they continue to be a nothing mid tier team like they are now. They are no closer imho to a flag now then they were a decade ago...
And what they did in the 90s means they can never be forgiven for mine.... papers marked as scum for all eternity. @@@@ them!!!!
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Could the Taylor miss be termed a choke?As per Wikipedia
In sports, choking is the failure of a sportsperson or team in a game in a situation where maintaining their performance is highly important. This can occur in a game or tournament that they are strongly favored to win, or in an instance where they have a large lead that they squander in the late stages of the event
So in this case we weren’t heavily favoured and we didn’t have a large lead late in the game soooooo maybe they just started well and couldn’t go with it ? Or Carlton played poorly initially?
Just maybe it wasn’t really a choke simply just being beaten?Comment
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Don't feed the troll. I've found ignoring is the better option.As per Wikipedia
In sports, choking is the failure of a sportsperson or team in a game in a situation where maintaining their performance is highly important. This can occur in a game or tournament that they are strongly favored to win, or in an instance where they have a large lead that they squander in the late stages of the event
So in this case we weren’t heavily favoured and we didn’t have a large lead late in the game soooooo maybe they just started well and couldn’t go with it ? Or Carlton played poorly initially?
Just maybe it wasn’t really a choke simply just being beaten?Comment

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