Round 16: Blues v Swans @ Metricon

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  • 0918330512
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2011
    • 1654

    Originally posted by 707
    chuckle about how much Carlton gave for McGovern and the $750k they're paying him,
    People in glass houses ... Buddy probably earned about $40k per training session this year

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    • Bexl
      Regular in the Side
      • Jan 2003
      • 817

      Originally posted by MattW
      On balance it favoured them, but squared up in the final minute. Just didn't take advantage.
      1 soft free is Not a square up.

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      • Markwebbos
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2016
        • 7186

        Originally posted by stevoswan
        Not all of us have Foxtel and don't see the other things that influence the game.....but we still like to post on this thread. I only have my stats to go on....and the frees are stuffed!!

        ....and we lost by only five points. Happy?
        You can get the games on Kayo or the AFL live app. I don't have Foxtel (and Kayo pictures are better than Foxtel anyway).

        What about these stats:

        inside 50s 51-34
        disposals 299-245
        contested possession 132-109
        scoring shots 17-12

        It wasn't just the umpires, Carlton dominated us once they turned things around.

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          That is the biggest choke in recent history.
          No ticker.

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          • jono2707
            Goes up to 11
            • Oct 2007
            • 3326

            Umpiring was terrible in general but probably did favour Carlton at times. But geez to kick 1.2 in the second half, after such a bright start, is inexcusable. Our forward structure after half time was again broken. Hope it's something we can improve in 2021 (Buddy or not). We aren't going to progress as much as some think if we don't put more time and effort into having a functional forward line of some sort.

            Clearly Horse's overarching strategy of folding everyone back to inside the defensive 50 needs a tune up - if we don't become more offensively focused we'll face more frustration next year. And tonight was frustrating.

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            • mcs
              Travelling Swannie!!
              • Jul 2007
              • 8166

              Originally posted by MattW
              How @@@@ing good is McCartin? My favourite player. You just know you could rely on him in the grand final. Dude's a backman now.
              He was outstanding tonight. I reckon he could make an absolute beast of a forward, but he is too good down back for mine. Class above tonight and playing like a 250 game veteran, not someone with what 35 odd games on the board. He is our solution at CHB, that is now clear in my mind.

              We need to build our defence for the next decade around him.
              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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              • Mark26
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2017
                • 1535

                Originally posted by MattW
                How @@@@ing good is McCartin? My favourite player. You just know you could rely on him in the grand final. Dude's a backman now.
                Tom was fantastic. He's been a revelation down back and looks like he's played down there for years. We need two of him. One to stay back and one to go forward.

                We had a few sore bodies after that. Time to rest some players and bring in some freshies. I'd like to see Gould and Amartey debut. Ling, Warner, Mills and Stephens in for another run. Maybe not all in the same week though.

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                • dejavoodoo44
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 8637

                  Originally posted by Markwebbos
                  Its pretty much all some on here talk about. Why not talk about some of the other things that influence the game?
                  You could try to stop us from having a go at the umpires, but I really don't like your chances. Especially on nights like tonight, when they largely forgot about the holding the ball rule and only umpired one side for holding in the marking contest.

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    Originally posted by mcs
                    He was outstanding tonight. I reckon he could make an absolute beast of a forward, but he is too good down back for mine. Class above tonight and playing like a 250 game veteran, not someone with what 35 odd games on the board. He is our solution at CHB, that is now clear in my mind.

                    We need to build our defence for the next decade around him.
                    +1

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                    • Melbourne_Blood
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2010
                      • 3312

                      Originally posted by barry
                      That is the biggest choke in recent history.
                      No ticker.
                      We didn’t exactly have a lot on the line. GWS just got done by Adelaide, with a finals spot on the line. That’s a much bigger choke. Ditto Melbourne against Freo.


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                      • Agent 86
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 1689

                        Originally posted by Markwebbos
                        Handy mark there by McLean ... and finish
                        Pity that was his only touch for the whole game

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8166

                          Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                          Umpires didn’t help for sure but we just ran out of steam after the first qtr really. And, once again, got a an absolute belting out of the middle. This team needs a gun inside mid. Joeys not what he was, nor is Parker. Rowbottom still learning. After that there’s nothing. Oh And a decent ruckman.


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                          If we are going to trade for an experienced player anytime soon, it has to be a gun midfield bull. Rowbottom has class stamped all over him, but his form is down a bit recently, Florent is hit and miss, and Joey is a shadow of his best at the moment. Parker I think has had a good season, but he can't do it all himself.

                          The ruck situation is a mess, but I truly think we should look for a good experienced head, and try our best to get a quality young ruckman and take a punt on developing them. And maybe pick up someone like a Preuss looking for opportunities. We don't need a ruckman necessarily for season 2021 (i.e. I don't think we will be contending for anything), but we need that piece of the puzzle well on the way to be solved for 2022 onwards, as we are making huge progress in other elements of the team.
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • Hotpotato
                            Senior Player
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 2271

                            Players inability to swerve out of defence to out fox the chaser/tackler ... even Joey was brought down .

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                            • 0918330512
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 1654

                              Originally posted by barry
                              That is the biggest choke in recent history.
                              No ticker.
                              Are you talking our young group tonight or the talent laden GW$’s entire season?

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                              • MattW
                                Veterans List
                                • May 2011
                                • 4218

                                I'm generally positive given who we have out, who we are getting games into, and the experience of games like this. There's a number of dudes in that team who won't be in our best 22 next year and the younger ones who will are going ok.

                                But FFS, no more Sinclair - please! Dude's a lumbering free kick against. When he gets it, it's a turnover. What's the @@@@ing point. He gets beaten in the air and around the ground every week. Start Aliir in there or play Amartey. Man.

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