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  • TheBloods
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Feb 2020
    • 2047

    Originally posted by Roadrunner
    Love you TB!
    Just get King in- doesn’t matter which one- I have faith in you! Next thing, you will appreciate what JR brings to the table.
    Starting with tomorrow i hope , wont be holding my breath

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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      Originally posted by Goal Sneak
      Not always! Just off the top of my head, I can think of Michael and Brett Voss. Peter and Andrejs Everitt, Keiran & Brandon Jack. The Selwoods are an interesting case!
      The Goodes brothers

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      • goswannies
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2007
        • 3049

        Originally posted by Nico
        Amazing how over the years the second brother is always better than the first. Then the 3rd is better than the other 2. Terry Daniher was the first and best of the Danihers.
        The Swans alone are littered with examples to the contrary

        Originally posted by Goal Sneak
        Not always! Just off the top of my head, I can think of Michael and Brett Voss. Peter and Andrejs Everitt, Keiran & Brandon Jack. The Selwoods are an interesting case!
        Anthony Stevens (North champion) was followed by our very own Gary Stevens and then Michael

        Shane Crawford (Hawthorn Brownlow medalist) was followed by our own Justin Crawford

        Barry Mitchell (yup, Tom’s father) had a younger brother Trevor who only ever played reserves for us

        Micky O’Loughlin had a younger brother who only played a little bit with the Crows and ressies with us

        Andy Otten 109 games with the Crows. Younger brother Max manager reserves games with us.

        Ted Richards. Xav Richards

        Kieran Jack. Brandon “28” Jack

        Neil Cordy (235 games) was the eldest was followed by Neil (124 games) and youngest Graeme (27 games)

        Daniel (dual premiership player) and younger brother Darren (1 game) Bradshaw
        Last edited by goswannies; 27 August 2021, 09:43 PM.

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        • Industrial Fan
          Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
          • Aug 2006
          • 3318

          Dawson is a critical signing and dwarfs Parker in our ability to challenge for a flag IMO.

          Dawson then daylight in terms of priorities.
          He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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          • goswannies
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2007
            • 3049

            Originally posted by goswannies
            Anthony Stevens (North champion) was followed by our very own Gary Stevens and then Michael

            Shane Crawford (Hawthorn Brownlow medalist) was followed by our own Justin Crawford

            Barry Mitchell (yup, Tom’s father) had a younger brother Trevor who only ever played reserves for us

            Micky O’Loughlin had a younger brother, Ricky, who only played a little bit with the Crows and ressies with us

            Andy Otten 109 games with the Crows. Younger brother Max manager reserves games with us.

            Ted Richards. Xav Richards

            Kieran Jack. Brandon “28” Jack

            Neil Cordy (235 games) was the eldest was followed by Neil (124 games) and youngest Graeme (27 games)

            Daniel (dual premiership player) and younger brother Darren (1 game) Bradshaw
            And the jury is still out but I predict that Nathan Jones’ career will be more decorated than his younger sibling Zac

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            • mcs
              Travelling Swannie!!
              • Jul 2007
              • 8166

              Originally posted by Industrial Fan
              Dawson is a critical signing and dwarfs Parker in our ability to challenge for a flag IMO.

              Dawson then daylight in terms of priorities.
              Get where your coming from, but I'm not so convinced. Only because if Parker was to leave, we have a huge 'gap' in that sort of 'elder statesmen' role in the team once Kennedy does hang up the boots. I think Parker is hugely important in that respect - he is a real leader at the footy club.

              But Dawson has a great mixture of skills and is critically important too.

              I still reckon we will comfortably keep both, and that Hewett's likely to be the big name that may go (Stephens may go too, but he is far from anything in terms of a proven quality afl player yet).
              Last edited by mcs; 27 August 2021, 10:42 PM.
              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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              • Captain
                Captain of the Side
                • Feb 2004
                • 3602

                Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                Dawson is a critical signing and dwarfs Parker in our ability to challenge for a flag IMO.

                Dawson then daylight in terms of priorities.
                100% this. Want to keep both obviously but if could only have one, I’m picking my man Jordan.

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                • TheBloods
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Feb 2020
                  • 2047

                  Kidding , midfield would be F'd without Parker . Disrespect to a CHAMPION who would BLEED For this club , hes not going anywhere

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                  • mcs
                    Travelling Swannie!!
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 8166

                    Originally posted by TheBloods
                    Kidding , midfield would be F'd without Parker . Disrespect to a CHAMPION who would BLEED For this club , hes not going anywhere
                    I dont think any comments made are really showing 'disrepect', just a view that some hold that Dawson is a more important player to resign than Parker. I disagree, but don't see for one second how it is disrespect in any form.

                    Almost as silly a comment then when you suggested 'disrespect' was shown to JPK earlier in the year because dear god he was named in the team on the bench....
                    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                    • TheBloods
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Feb 2020
                      • 2047

                      Originally posted by mcs
                      I dont think any comments made are really showing 'disrepect', just a view that some hold that Dawson is a more important player to resign than Parker. I disagree, but don't see for one second how it is disrespect in any form.

                      Almost as silly a comment then when you suggested 'disrespect' was shown to JPK earlier in the year because dear god he was named in the team on the bench....
                      It is disrespectful to speak poorly about or say anything critical of these blokes , some players are just off limits and our great captains are off limits !

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                      • mcs
                        Travelling Swannie!!
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8166

                        Originally posted by TheBloods
                        It is disrespectful to speak poorly about or say anything critical of these blokes , some players are just off limits and our great captains are off limits !
                        In your opinion - it is not necessarily a universal truth.

                        I am intrigued - just what part of the original comments are disrespectful?

                        Dawson is a critical signing and dwarfs Parker in our ability to challenge for a flag IMO.

                        Dawson then daylight in terms of priorities.


                        100% this. Want to keep both obviously but if could only have one, I’m picking my man Jordan.

                        All those comments suggest are they see Dawson as the priority for re-signing. Happy for you to disagree, but I really do not see how any part of either comment is disrespectful.

                        No one is saying Parker is a @@@@ footballer not fit to wear the shirt, or we should get rid of him.....

                        A bit like your comment around JPK earlier in the year - its appears to be a very long bow being drawn.
                        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                        • Captain
                          Captain of the Side
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 3602

                          Originally posted by mcs
                          In your opinion - it is not necessarily a universal truth.

                          I am intrigued - just what part of the original comments are disrespectful?

                          Dawson is a critical signing and dwarfs Parker in our ability to challenge for a flag IMO.

                          Dawson then daylight in terms of priorities.


                          100% this. Want to keep both obviously but if could only have one, I’m picking my man Jordan.

                          All those comments suggest are they see Dawson as the priority for re-signing. Happy for you to disagree, but I really do not see how any part of either comment is disrespectful.

                          No one is saying Parker is a @@@@ footballer not fit to wear the shirt, or we should get rid of him.....

                          A bit like your comment around JPK earlier in the year - its appears to be a very long bow being drawn.
                          Well said.

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                          • The Runner
                            Regular in the Side
                            • May 2017
                            • 718

                            It would be a real shame to lose Parker. But if it's because he's asking for more than what we believe is appropriate or what we can afford.. then it is what it is. This is a job for these guys. He has a responsibility to earn as much as he can whilst he's playing to set himself up for the rest of his life.

                            I agree on the stack rank - Jordan, Parker, Hewett, everyone else

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                            • 707
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6204

                              Parker is not leaving, both parties will come to an agreement, he will get a four year contract and the trade off will be a little less per year, it's standard stuff for players his age.

                              Remember the AFL still hasn't given clubs the salary cap for next year, plus we are involved in finals, and contract talks usually take a back seat during finals so as not to distract players. Almost not worth thinking about.

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                              • dejavoodoo44
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 8626

                                Originally posted by 707
                                Parker is not leaving, both parties will come to an agreement, he will get a four year contract and the trade off will be a little less per year, it's standard stuff for players his age.

                                Remember the AFL still hasn't given clubs the salary cap for next year, plus we are involved in finals, and contract talks usually take a back seat during finals so as not to distract players. Almost not worth thinking about.
                                Yes, and hopefully, not having to think about contracts will continue for a few more weeks.

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