2021 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Markwebbos
    Veterans List
    • Jul 2016
    • 7186

    Originally posted by MattW
    Serious question: so why didn't they trade for him?
    Yeah. How can he get to North … or can he go in the PSD?

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16736

      Originally posted by Markwebbos
      Yeah. How can he get to North … or can he go in the PSD?
      There are some weird rules around rookies moving clubs but I can't remember the exact details. It's why we got a fairly good trade return from Collingwood when Sam Murray moved there, despite never even playing a game for us.

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      • caj23
        Senior Player
        • Aug 2003
        • 2462

        Sam's dad posts on Bigfooty, he said the North rumour was BS and Sam would be staying with the Swans

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        • Mark26
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2017
          • 1535

          Originally posted by caj23
          Sam's dad posts on Bigfooty, he said the North rumour was BS and Sam would be staying with the Swans
          Good. I like Wicks and think he has upside. I just happened to watch the round 3 match and he tore apart the Tiger's defence.

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          • Aprilbr
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2016
            • 1803

            Yes, I would hate to lose him at this stage. Its a little strange though that there is no news of a re-signing? I sincerely hope that he will be with us next season.

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            • Aprilbr
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2016
              • 1803

              I just had a look on that footy gossip site and the poster does seem to be genuine as his Dad when you look through his posts over a period of time. He even said that Sam knows he engages with you the site and they had a laugh at the North Melbourne rumours. He went on to say that
              Sam is very deeply ingrained at the swans so his contract is not a burning issue for the swans.

              Link is below

              Player Watch - #45 Sam Wicks - Welcome to Sydney | Page 6 | BigFooty

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              • Auntie.Gerald
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2009
                • 6474

                If Sam Wicks buried a few more goals in 2021 we probably would have lauded his 2nd season in AFL.

                That was my only knock was that he missed about 8 goals on the run round the corner I thought he should have nailed

                That would have had him at 25 goals approx and a much better percentage.

                My gut feeling watching all aspects of his game is that Sam has plenty more upside in the forwards and as Sheather starts to put on the pressure for a small / medium forward we may see Wicks with a little extra tagging time in the midst also
                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                • 707
                  Veterans List
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6204

                  Originally posted by liz
                  There are some weird rules around rookies moving clubs but I can't remember the exact details. It's why we got a fairly good trade return from Collingwood when Sam Murray moved there, despite never even playing a game for us.
                  If you trade in a rookie they must go onto the main list, you can't trade in a rookie and put them on your own rookie list. Think that may be the curly rookie rule you're thinking of Liz.

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                  • Steve
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 676

                    Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                    Talking to a Port mate of mine (yes it is possible to be friends with one) and he mentioned that Rockliff on MMM Adelaide had said Ladhams spat the dummy after being delivered a few home truths about his off field behaviour in his end of season review. Was not willing to take it on board so was told he could look elsewhere.
                    Seems like Port aren’t great at providing timely feedback along the way - leave it to the end-of-year debrief to raise concerns.

                    Chris Davies had some harsh words publicly re: Powell-Pepper and his fitness etc, which also came up during the end-of-year ‘exit interview’.

                    Seems like Port had a bit of a fit after the Prelim and suddenly thought a lot of things they tolerated were actually not acceptable and probably had a go at most players individually.

                    So I wouldn’t read a lot into it other than moving clubs will be a good prompt for Ladhams to lift his game and prove himself (which he has already said publicly is his focus).

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                    • 707
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6204

                      Originally posted by caj23
                      Sam's dad posts on Bigfooty, he said the North rumour was BS and Sam would be staying with the Swans
                      The Norf "rumour" has its origins in a single post by a Hawthorn supporter on the Wicks BF thread. Absolutely a troll

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                      • 707
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6204

                        Originally posted by Steve
                        Seems like Port aren’t great at providing timely feedback along the way - leave it to the end-of-year debrief to raise concerns.

                        Chris Davies had some harsh words publicly re: Powell-Pepper and his fitness etc, which also came up during the end-of-year ‘exit interview’.

                        Seems like Port had a bit of a fit after the Prelim and suddenly thought a lot of things they tolerated were actually not acceptable and probably had a go at most players individually.

                        So I wouldn’t read a lot into it other than moving clubs will be a good prompt for Ladhams to lift his game and prove himself (which he has already said publicly is his focus).
                        Funny that Ladhams chose to come to us and it was KB who provided him with the very honest and harsh feedback prior to his draft.

                        Seem to remember that it was also KB who gave Hayward some harsh fitness feedback prior to his draft :-)

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                        • Rod_
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 1179

                          Hope that Ladhams can do what Nankervis did for the tigers. (Eg come into the side, make an impact and we have a few grand finals under our belt)

                          Welcome big fellow! (Seems a mix of Mummy and Nankervis to me... hopefully!)

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                          • Steve
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 676

                            Originally posted by 707
                            Funny that Ladhams chose to come to us and it was KB who provided him with the very honest and harsh feedback prior to his draft.

                            Seem to remember that it was also KB who gave Hayward some harsh fitness feedback prior to his draft :-)
                            It’s probably equal parts i) he’s just that sort of genuine football person who will give feedback where he thinks it will benefit a young player, and ii) it gives him something to assess over the rest of that year to see the response and how hard the player is willing to work and how open to constructive feedback etc.

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                            • Ralph Dawg
                              Senior Player
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 1729

                              Brander or Marty Hore worth a look? Don't really know much about them but both defenders and have been de-listed by respective clubs.

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                              • TheBloods
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Feb 2020
                                • 2047

                                Originally posted by 707
                                Funny that Ladhams chose to come to us and it was KB who provided him with the very honest and harsh feedback prior to his draft.

                                Seem to remember that it was also KB who gave Hayward some harsh fitness feedback prior to his draft :-)
                                We are lucky to have KB , he is no nonsense but a top bloke . Ran into him at the Paddo and he was pretty merry , i asked him if he was celebrating his off season and he said recruiters dont get an off season !

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