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  • bloodspirit
    Clubman
    • Apr 2015
    • 4448

    Originally posted by Ludwig
    If we trade Melican, then Gould will clearly be next in line. He's getting onto the emergencies every week now, so he knows we want him. We should offer him a very good contract for someone who has never played and AFL game and commit to playing him next year. It's a risk work taking. He is contracted, so it's not that easy for him to move if we make everything right for him to stay.

    If it doesn't work, and he's dead set to move on, then I think we should go for Logue. He hasn't lived up to a pick #8, but he's coming along now and can play both ends of the ground. If our KPD stocks are depleted, he would be worth a late 1st rounder to us. At least we know he can play.

    1. Pretty sure Gould is on a one year deal this year and out of contract.

    2. I think West Coast are in the box seat to get Logue if he leaves Freo. Logue is a WA boy and West Coast can make the cap space to fit him in (in a way that Freo can't) and can just walk him to the pre-season draft if Freo don't cooperate at the trade table.
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    • Cosmic Wizard
      recruit me pretty please!
      • Sep 2005
      • 620

      I would be happy to lose Cunningham.

      He is 29 in December, can't break into the team, and is being keep around for depth.

      The Swans always seem keep aging players a year or two past their prime, forcing younger players to go elsewhere.

      We have a lot of good youngsters, if we get an injury, we can blood them then.

      This is a certain cache associated with Swans players.

      So many of our fringe players go to other clubs and totally star, think Hewett and Dawson.

      We can and must ask a high price from other clubs, not what we think they are worth.
      doof-doof

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      • chuckie
        Warming the Bench
        • Jan 2003
        • 301

        Whatever we do this trade and draft period i hope we don't pick an international player and waste 3 years when we could pick someone that can already play the game

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        • Maltopia
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2016
          • 1556

          Originally posted by chuckie
          Whatever we do this trade and draft period i hope we don't pick an international player and waste 3 years when we could pick someone that can already play the game
          Tadgh Kennelly was fantastic for us. Pike helped us win a Premiership.

          Category B rookies (if that is what they are still called) don't cost much in terms of opportunity cost for us. Sure BOC is unlikely to make it, but the same for 'ready made' players we have taken from the National and Rookie drafts. COR has shown glimpses of being able to make it, with injury being a factor.

          I think Mason Cox has been a success too, in that he has done much better than other forward-rucks taken after late in the second round (you wouldn't use such an early pick on a prospect from another sport).

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          • Markwebbos
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            Originally posted by Cosmic Wizard
            I would be happy to lose Cunningham.

            He is 29 in December, can't break into the team, and is being keep around for depth.

            The Swans always seem keep aging players a year or two past their prime, forcing younger players to go elsewhere.

            We have a lot of good youngsters, if we get an injury, we can blood them then.

            This is a certain cache associated with Swans players.

            So many of our fringe players go to other clubs and totally star, think Hewett and Dawson.

            We can and must ask a high price from other clubs, not what we think they are worth.
            What about Sam Reid? 99% of people would have said he was depth at best this year and he’s going ok …

            Or Robbie Fox, 29, barely got a contract this year also in career best form.

            We are going to get very little for Cunningham if we trade him.

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            • TheBloods
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Feb 2020
              • 2047

              Originally posted by Markwebbos
              What about Sam Reid? 99% of people would have said he was depth at best this year and he’s going ok …

              Or Robbie Fox, 29, barely got a contract this year also in career best form.

              We are going to get very little for Cunningham if we trade him.
              Some would trade half the list if given the keys

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              • royboy42
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2006
                • 2078

                Originally posted by TheBloods
                Some would trade half the list if given the keys
                It's about footy, mate.
                Not your perception of other posters' inadequacies.

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                • joeykanga
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Jul 2019
                  • 361

                  Originally posted by Markwebbos
                  What about Sam Reid? 99% of people would have said he was depth at best this year and he’s going ok …

                  Or Robbie Fox, 29, barely got a contract this year also in career best form.

                  We are going to get very little for Cunningham if we trade him.
                  Perfect cases in point +1

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                  Are you in jest or slightly overreacting

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                  Are you in jest or slightly overreacting

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                  Originally posted by joeykanga
                  Perfect cases in point +1

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                  Are you in jest or slightly overreacting

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                  Are you in jest or slightly overreacting
                  Sorry markwebbos that was meant for the royboy comment

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                  • stevoswan
                    Veterans List
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 8555

                    Originally posted by royboy42
                    It's about footy, mate.
                    Not your perception of other posters' inadequacies.

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                    He's pretty right though.....

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                    • gloveski
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1018

                      Lloyd has put of contract talks until end of season



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                      • Auntie.Gerald
                        Veterans List
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6477

                        Clarkson signs on at North
                        Then this media speculation re Lloyd
                        Clarko in the past has said publicly how much he rates Lloyd
                        North are in gigantic need of a player like Lloyd..........we will be hard pressed to match
                        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                        • gloveski
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 1018

                          Lloyd is exactly the type North under Clarko would target . He needs some experience to go with the youth they have . He has that aura about him so he will be looking to sign some experience he knows he can trust . Especially early on . Anyone half decent who is out of contracted North will target with Clarko the selling point


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                          • Mark26
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2017
                            • 1535

                            Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                            Clarkson signs on at North
                            Then this media speculation re Lloyd
                            Clarko in the past has said publicly how much he rates Lloyd
                            North are in gigantic need of a player like Lloyd..........we will be hard pressed to match
                            If Lloyd goes to North, would Gould slot into his position? Has he got the skill set and tank to do so? I don't know.

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                            • bloodspirit
                              Clubman
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 4448

                              Originally posted by Mark26
                              If Lloyd goes to North, would Gould slot into his position? Has he got the skill set and tank to do so? I don't know.
                              More likely to be Florent or Cunningham or COR or even HHK.

                              I think it's better if we keep Lloyd but we have enough depth to cover him.
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                              • Mark26
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2017
                                • 1535

                                Originally posted by bloodspirit
                                More likely to be Florent or Cunningham or COR or even HHK.

                                I think it's better if we keep Lloyd but we have enough depth to cover him.
                                I'd like to keep Lloyd too. I dislike the cliched line that gets thrown around about just wanting to focus on the footy and we'll deal with the contract at the end of the year. But I also suspect there's not much else you could say if it's likely a move is on the cards.

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